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MScot

· Föderation EN Do 13.02.2025 19:30:31

@Strandjunker The troublesome diseases were eliminated by civil engineering improving water supplies an sewage services in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The precipitous decreases occurred before vaccination.

Gordon Oliver

Föderation EN Do 13.02.2025 21:27:09

@MScot

That is a common anti-vax trope. Certain diseases were substantially decreased or eliminated via various sanitation/public health measures. In particular gastro-intestinal fecal-oral transmitted diseases (e.g. typhoid) and certain vector borne or parasitic diseases e.g. yellow fever and malaria in the US. But vaccines have done a far better job when they are available.

Almost all of the diseases in the list above required vaccines to suppress them.

enoch_exe_inc

Föderation EN Do 13.02.2025 21:32:12

@MScot @Strandjunker Superior infrastructure certainly helped, but as every pandemic that has happened during and after the Industrial Revolution has shown, itโ€™s vaccination that actually eliminates disease.

DoNotPunchDown

Föderation EN Do 13.02.2025 21:45:17

@MScot @Strandjunker

I'm curious, which one of those diseases weren't troublesome? Which were eliminated without vaccines? Because my siblings and I had chicken pox, my brother had the measles. I worked with a woman who suffered after having polio as a child. We were born in the later half of the 20th century

Matt Palmer

Föderation EN Do 13.02.2025 21:54:46

@MScot "polio and smallpox weren't troublesome diseases" is an absolutely scorching hot take.

@Strandjunker