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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social

Föderation EN Sa 18.01.2025 23:47:10

Are you fucking kidding me?

Jack Dorsey is a main track speaker at FOSDEM this year:
fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event

🤮

I am at a loss of words. I also owe sincere apologies to everyone flagging issues with FOSDEM over the years, whose concerns I often somewhat minimized. I am sorry, you were all right and I was wrong.

FOSDEM is now explicitly platforming AI/blockchain bro fascists. 🤬

👉 Edit: Drew DeVault is organizing a sit-in, and explains why: drewdevault.com/2025/01/16/202

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Adam

Adam
@adamsaidsomething@mastodon.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 04:15:16

@rysiek

Offdem is a thing now

offdem.net

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 11:38:11

@adamsaidsomething yeah. I had the pleasure of attending the very first Offdem, years ago.

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Sebastian Lasse

Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social

Föderation EN Di 21.01.2025 11:32:21

@adamsaidsomething

maybe better than escaping drewdevault.com/2025/01/20/202

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Sebastian Lasse

Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:03:44

@rysiek

It is no problem to be wrong sometimes cause we are all wrong sometimes.

It is also not why I am sad anymore. I am rather sad that such things have the potential to split "good communities".

ActivityPub is now a bit seperated between an "Offdem Community", the "Standards Community" and a foundation which tries at official fosdem fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track and after hours.

Anyway, it is on Sat, so the timing is ok and we all can escape Brussels before the "AI/blockchain bro fascists" fly in.

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:09:54

In case anyone is confused as to why platforming Jack Dorsey is a problem, go listen to this Tech Won't Save Us episode:
techwontsave.us/episode/228_ja

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:19:29

Lol, of course there is immediately a sealion in the replies, asking polite questions about why would letting Dorsey speak at FOSDEM be an issue, and why would anyone not like Dorsey after he supported decentralized networks like Nostr.

Profile: Bitcoin developer, "working on web monetization", Nostr address.

[shocked picachu face] 🤣

So about Nostr:

> Jack Dorsey gave $10 million to an anonymous founder with a deep devotion to a fascist 'guru'

web.archive.org/web/2024060609

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Julius Schwartzenberg - Юліус

Julius Schwartzenberg - Юліус
@jschwart@mas.to

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:24:58

@rysiek I saw multiple posts complaining about a bilionaire speaking. I was confused by that.

I think it had better be highlighted that people have a problem with a fascist speaking. Then it's more clear that there is a problem.

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:27:07

@jschwart I mean, platforming a billionaire is already bad enough in my book

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Julius Schwartzenberg - Юліус

Julius Schwartzenberg - Юліус
@jschwart@mas.to

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:35:41

@rysiek that could well be, but in these cases I care a billion times more whether somebody is a fascist or not than whether someone is a billionaire or not ;)

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
@rysiek@mstdn.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:36:31

@jschwart oh absolutely, no question about that. Communicating clearly about this is obviously a very good idea. 😄

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 13:17:31

@jschwart @rysiek
I also associated it more on the “billionaire” than anything else. also I don’t know the fascist background.

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marcink

marcink
@marcink@stolat.town

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 15:13:49

@jschwart @rysiek Being a billionaire means having a record of making choices prioritizing own wealth and influence over wellbeing of very large groups of people. Between that and a broke fascist, I would not be as certain that it's the latter who was more destructive.

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Aaron

Aaron
@Subterfuge@dice.camp

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 15:54:33

@jschwart @rysiek that’s a distinction that is usually meaningless. Fascism is for the billionaires.

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Lawrence Pritchard Waterhouse

Lawrence Pritchard Waterhouse
@lpwaterhouse@ioc.exchange

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:32:55

@jschwart @rysiek tomato/tomato?

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lunchy

lunchy
@lunch@tilde.zone

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:48:23

@jschwart @rysiek yeah fiatjaf is actually a fucking insane conspiracy theorist

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:33:40

@rysiek Shouldn't be hard to find something reportable in these shitheads' post histories. Get them off the fedi and back to their circlejerk on Nostr.

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lj·rk

lj·rk
@ljrk@todon.eu

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:48:41

@dalias @rysiek tbf, we’re circle jerking too, but we are right (at least i believe so)

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:51:13

@ljrk @rysiek Organizing to exclude awful ppl from your communities isn't circle jerking.

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lj·rk

lj·rk
@ljrk@todon.eu

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 12:52:50

@dalias @rysiek Oh, I didn't mean that ^^'

The Fedi in general is a bit of a circle-jerk, but I like it (we do have discussions, but it's a bubble nontheless but I really don't mind).

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 13:01:58

@ljrk @rysiek The distinction I'm making is that we're here because we want to have positive community, share things were cresting, build systems to protect one another, etc. We don't need or want them here.

But they depend on trying to hurt us to have a good time online. That's why, despite being on their disgusting nazi coinbro thing Nostr, they're also here. The circlejerk analogy is that they're stuck settling for each other's miserable company when they want to be screwing us.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 13:59:42

@dalias @ljrk
how is calling a person who you have never interacted with nor know (me) a “shithead” part of a “positive community”?
How did me asking another person a question “hurt” you?

In my world and in my fediverse horribly insulting others is not part of a “positive community” which can interact with each other in a decent way.

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:01:16

@bumi @ljrk Google paradox of tolerance.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:03:49

@dalias @ljrk
which in this case would say that I am intolerant and thus you must not tolerate me. but for that you also need to be able to show where am I intolerant?!

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:04:19

@bumi @ljrk No, I don't have anything to prove to you. Fuck off.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:15:42

@dalias @ljrk
no, you sure don’t.
but I am surprised and honestly sad about you insulting random people without any conversation and call it “positive community”.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 13:52:57

@dalias
I am the person who asked those questions. And I really wanted to understand. I care about events like FOSDEM and don’t know much about Dorsey and the problem here.

So why do you call me a shithead?
And please show me something “reportable” in my timeline where I post something unacceptable.

When did we loose to have a conversation among people who don’t know each other?
What do we expect when we insult people who we don’t know as “shithead”?

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 13:57:08

@bumi If you have values opposed to the very existence of people I care about, I really don't care to know or exchange ideas with you.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:01:17

@dalias how do you come to the conclusion I oppse the existence of people?!

This is crazy. You have never interacted with me but want to know my values?!

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:01:50

@bumi Welcoming fascist funding VCs to our communities.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:05:25

@dalias who? which VC do I welcome to the community?
I asked a question about FOSDEM…

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Cassandrich

Cassandrich
@dalias@hachyderm.io

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 14:06:25

@bumi Jack.

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bumi

bumi
@bumi@kosmos.social

Föderation EN So 19.01.2025 13:15:59

@rysiek
so this is how you react here on a question? I really appreciate your links and your time sharing what you know and what I don’t know (yet).
I don’t know Dorsey and didn’t care much about him. I care about FOSDEM and such events. And I really want to understand it.
I think you do not know me and my work and values. Maybe we might disagree on some things (I don’t know) but I assumed we can have conversations here and learn from each other.

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Sebastian Lasse

Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social

Föderation EN Di 21.01.2025 11:31:25

@rysiek

Let's block at :
drewdevault.com/2025/01/20/202

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pfm 🧘 :mastodont:

pfm 🧘 :mastodont:
@pfm@edolas.world

Föderation · So 19.01.2025 13:59:34

@rysiek There's going to be a Birds of Feather session on Saturday about organising sponsor-free conferences, which deserves to get some attention as it's obviously very relevant:

At NixCon 2024, we took the bold step of going completely sponsor-free—and it turned out to be a great success, with 400 attendees, making it the largest NixCon to date.

In this BOF session, I’ll share my experiences as a core organizer, including the challenges, lessons learned, and tips for anyone looking to organize their own sponsor-free events without breaking the bank.

https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6721-organizing-sponsor-free-conferences-bof/

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Sebastian Lasse

Sebastian Lasse
@sl007@digitalcourage.social

Föderation DE So 19.01.2025 17:57:28

@pfm

we did also make this meta video having the same subject, prior to ActivityPub Conf conf.tube/w/hLabnhe93HEr4u1Qyx
( tl;dr money for Prague the year before came privately from community members, maybe not the best solution )

@rysiek

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