Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 10:47:10 Monopoly wasn't invented by the Parker Brothers, nor the man they gave it credit for. In 1904, Monopoly was originally called The Landlord's Game, and was invented by a radical woman. Elizabeth Magie's original game had not one, but two sets of rules to choose from. Medien: 1 |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 11:35:41 @MarkHoltom that board is so pretty! Wonder if the the rules are readily available? Would love to play Prosperity on Monopoly board. Flipping the course in a game that causes so much offence between players when played. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 12:31:36 @salakala @MarkHoltom |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:06:57 @musevg https://landlordsgame.info/games/lg-1906/lg-1906_egc-rules.html |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 14:20:46 @salakala @MarkHoltom https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/29316/the-landlords-game BGG has the rules and lots of images |
Föderation DE Sa 10.05.2025 15:28:58 @salakala @MarkHoltom It is pretty, but it’s not the original. It’s from the 1939 Parker Brother's edition. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 11:41:03 @MarkHoltom Facinating! Thank you for posting this, I found this gem after reading your toot, https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/the-landlords-game/ |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:13:54 @curiouslily @MarkHoltom |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 11:50:06 @MarkHoltom si quelqu'un créait le jeu avec les règles "Prosperity" serait-ce litigieux vis-à-vis des droits sur le Monopoly, ce serait une bonne idée 🤔 |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 14:37:19 @TheForeignAgent @MarkHoltom nope, 1903 étant suffisamment ancien c'est probablement domaine public maintenant |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 11:53:44 @MarkHoltom Can we make the prosperity part into its own game and become even more popular than the monopoly one? |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:25:41 @johnnythan @MarkHoltom all the IP should be back in the public domain, so why not? |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 20:11:01 @johnnythan Only if the rights have expired. Elizabeth Magie cashed out and sold the rights to Parker Brothers. After that it was up to them what they did with it, and as far as I can tell the collaborative rules made for an even more dull game than monopoly is now. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 12:23:53 @MarkHoltom Well of course, Parker Bros couldn't challenge their own monopoly on their wares! |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 12:34:27 @wonka @MarkHoltom It should be noted that Parker Brothers did eventually purchase Magie's rights to the game, and the illustrated version above is, in fact, the Parker Brothers edition of the game. Magie based her game on the economic theories of Henry George, most prominently known for his 1879 treatise, "Progress and Poverty", with the central thesis that land should be made common property via reclamation of its community generated value. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:48:18 @gcvsa @wonka @MarkHoltom If you see people fight in HOAs about things, land being held in common would be a disaster, lol, except for public lands that are being used for private gain today, which is unacceptable. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:58:31 @gcvsa @wonka @MarkHoltom When I was young we used to have some sort of special edition (in German) that came with a strategy guide which also had some history of the game in it. If I don’t completely misremember (it was decades ago) it told a very different origin story about some unemployed guy (!) who drew up a map on wax paper. I don’t remember the game being explained as actually anti-capitalist. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 13:20:28 @MarkHoltom The real power is controlling the narrative. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 13:27:41 @MarkHoltom |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 13:40:08 @MarkHoltom damn, talk about victors writing history! |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 13:40:50 @MarkHoltom Now I'm imagining a tariffs expansion to explain basic economic principles for the capitalists out there. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 13:55:20 @MarkHoltom she was a Quaker too I believe. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:49:46 @mgifford @MarkHoltom being a Quaker would explain her views. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 14:02:05 @MarkHoltom More rot created by the patriarchy and their lust for capitalism |
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Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 14:54:47 @MarkHoltom And thus, one of the least interesting board games to play was born... |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:00:08 @MarkHoltom |
Föderation · Sa 10.05.2025 15:29:20 @MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk Probably the most prominent georgist since henry george himself |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:29:24 seems like *both* sets of rules are flawed? Both of them make it seem that it is a zero-sum game and wealth can not be generated, only moved around. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:33:32 @MarkHoltom Looked her up on Wikipedia. She was also an advocate for the rights of women and black people. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:35:02 Good researching, but given the country of origin, is it any wonder Monopoly became more popular than Prosperity? |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:35:40 @MarkHoltom great post, thank you! |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:36:03 @MarkHoltom here is some more on the topic: https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/the-landlords-game/ |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:41:58 @MarkHoltom some game maker needs to release this version. |
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Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:52:45 @MarkHolt Worw, if this is one of those annoying things called fact of history. I have much respect for Elizabeth Magie and explains why capitalism sucks for the people. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:59:06 If you play Monopoly and you are not the winner, you feel out of luck, unfairly treated and sometimes cheated. Apart from the winner, everyone feels worse after playing. Just like in capitalism in the real world. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 15:59:44 @MarkHoltom Oh! That's why Monopoly is sooooooooo boring. Have to try Prosperity rules! |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 16:04:53 @MarkHoltom Many decades ago I had a New Year's Eve babysitting job for my neighbors and our tradition was to play the board game called "Life" but play it backwards. You started out with all of the things/cars/kids/money and whoever lost them all first won the game. I didn't realize until a few years later what a little nihilist existentialist I actually was as a kid. 🤣 |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 17:36:41 @arisummerland |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 17:48:23 @Kavus Apologies, it has been almost 40 years since, so I don't know? I would just go ahead and make up your own after reading the actual rules. (If you own that board game, that is.) That's what I would do. I am somebody who made up nonsense scrabble rules and love them much more than regular Scrabble rules. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 18:14:35 @arisummerland |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 18:17:25 @Kavus you have carte blanche to do anything you want with the rules to make the game more fun! I hope you do have fun. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 16:05:49 @MarkHoltom |
Föderation NO Sa 10.05.2025 16:30:24 @MarkHoltom I started reading this and had to start over because I somehow initially assumed this was about the concept of a monopoly |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 16:32:11 @MarkHoltom My father usually incorporated some what we would now call “hacks”into playing Monopoly with us as children. One was a periodic issue of “bonuses” of $500 bills when someone playing was losing and would be forced out. He had others less dramatic. For him the object was to keep playing the game. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 16:37:56 @MarkHoltom I wonder if in her original version of 'Monopoly' the game board ended up getting trashed quite as much as games played on the current board do. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 16:42:06 @MarkHoltom More about #TheLandlordsGame in this thread! |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 17:01:10 @MarkHoltom do you know if there's availability of this table game nowadays? |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 17:04:20 @MarkHoltom for those interested in the story, this is a great book on the topic https://app.thestorygraph.com/books/b0cb0db1-562b-4dc3-a052-23f1d6416306 |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 17:47:50 @MarkHoltom wonder if that is out of copyright and could be reprinted and sold today. Seems like it should be... would just need good copies of all the original graphics. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 17:55:31 @MarkHoltom so you also watch Heretic recently. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 18:59:49 @MarkHoltom her birthday is a holiday in Macomb, Illinois. |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 19:48:45 @MarkHoltom There was an interesting documentary about this on German tv channel Arte a few months ago. https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/RC-026283/gestohlener-ruhm-frauen-im-schatten-des-erfolgs/ |
Föderation EN Sa 10.05.2025 20:13:58 @MarkHoltom So under the Prosperity rules landlords profited more by forming a cartel. That seem worse. |