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Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:23:57

The first beta release of Mastodon 4.4.0 is ready for testing!

Many user-facing improvements: featured content, updates for lists, follower management, new emoji, and refreshed audio and media players.

For server owners: new legal features, moderation tweaks, announcements updates, upgraded software stack, and some experimental feature options.

Please test it out, and provide feedback 💬

github.com/mastodon/mastodon/r

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:25:14

We plan to release a second beta next week, and then a Release Candidate. We expect 4.4.0 to be released by the first week of July, possibly sooner. 🚀

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:46:34

@MastodonEngineering Are these features already rolled out on mastodon.social?

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:50:23

@individual8 @MastodonEngineering these features are indeed available to users on mastodon.social - we are releasing this for more instances to test out.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:30:48

@andypiper

If I may, let me ask this question again, over here:

"- "experimental support for verifying and displaying remote quote posts""

I've watched as this very specific Issue worked its way through the

"remote quote posts"

I've seen no mention (perhaps I missed it) of who exactly gets to --> create <-- these "remote quote posts"

"remote" implies no one on my local instance

cc @individual8 @MastodonEngineering

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:45:25

@FinchHaven @andypiper @individual8 @MastodonEngineering the change log says at the moment there’s no way to create the quote post.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:47:20

@jerome

Yeah

See that quote (heh...) I pulled down from the Release notes:

""Quoting other people is not implemented yet, and it is currently not possible to mark your own posts as allowing quotes. However, a new “Who can quote” setting has been added to the “Posting defaults” section of the user settings. This setting allows you to set a default that will be used for new posts made on Mastodon 4.5 and newer, when quote posts will be fully implemented.""

Here: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/r

cc @andypiper @individual8 @MastodonEngineering

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 16:28:16

@FinchHaven @jerome @individual8 @MastodonEngineering any software that implemented the specification could post a quoted post - I believe some folks on aus.social have seen some aus.social/@shlee/114623318766

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 16:30:49

@andypiper @FinchHaven @individual8 @MastodonEngineering ok! the change log wasn't really clear that it was now possible to post quote post through the API, it talks more about incoming/inbound quote post

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 16:50:08

@jerome

Yeah there have been specific apps that have implemented for some time now -- and used that as a "marketing" feature

But of course there's a difference between the user-space "app" level and the overall-global instance distribution level

This will become Yet Another(tm) Advanced Feature(tm) that newcomers and the experienced alike will have to find in some Preferences --> Whatever location and turn on or off as they see fit

Who says Mastodon is hard to use? /snark

And what are "Carousel Slides" and when do we get to see them?

Are these for Pinned Posts, or nah?

cc @andypiper @individual8 @MastodonEngineering

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 16:54:38

@FinchHaven @andypiper @individual8 @MastodonEngineering It's my understanding that the apps such as Ivory that use it, don't use the same method as the new quoted feature in Mastodon in 4.4. They would need to update their implementation.

As for being a niche advanced feature, it's being said the ability for most people to use that feature to create quote post would come in 4.5

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:05:27

@jerome This is correct, Mastodon supports quote posts implemented as FEP-044F, which require a compatible server implementation that can provide a proof that the quoted person approved the quote post.

Right now, no server implement this (yet) but we know that some will do so soon, and Mastodon will in 4.5.

@FinchHaven @andypiper @individual8

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:06:10

@jerome
So right now, the only quote posts that will be displayed as such in Mastodon 4.4 are quote posts by some servers (like Akkoma) where the post author is the same account as the quoted post, because those do not require an approval stamp and Mastodon always consider those as approved.

@FinchHaven @andypiper

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:20:20

@FinchHaven @jerome @individual8 @MastodonEngineering we worked hard and put the specification through the Fediverse Enhancement Proposals process -we hope that people use the feature! Carousel slides are the way pinned posts will show up in user profiles on the web in 4.4.x

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:57:03

@andypiper

"Carousel slides are the way pinned posts will show up in user profiles on the web in 4.4.x"

I'm assuming (always a bad idea) this will be in any web browser tab-based presentation of any instance running > v4.4.x -- which I guess is what "on the web" means

(Presently Firefox 139.0.1 (64-bit) on Ubuntu here)

Other older instances will still present Pinned Posts as always

Don't really care about any "apps" nor have I ever bothered chasing the "app" of the day

cc @jerome @individual8 @MastodonEngineering

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 18:55:39

@FinchHaven @jerome @individual8 @MastodonEngineering yes, that is what I mean, and apologies if the changelog is not clear on that, this is something that we'll describe / show in a future release blog post.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 19:17:35

@andypiper

Thanks for your informative replies!

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:42:17

@MastodonEngineering where did that promised quote RT feature go?

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:52:54

@collectifission @hejsimon @MastodonEngineering we needed to do the work in two parts here. Thank you for your patience! It's happening! Display of incoming quote posts is available if the experimental flag is enabled.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 14:55:35

@MastodonEngineering great news, sounds like new Mastodon release will be out before the next @pixelfed release after all 😎

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:09:32

@MastodonEngineering I don't know. I once tested a website and my feedback was that all the pictures of women were loading slower. Got 0 for that. I wonder if they did something about it. Cause if they did, maybe I should sue them.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:10:13

They were hoping for feedback regarding the code. What feedback regarding the code? They were discriminating in an obvious fashion.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:12:08

And I just don't understand what developers want. I make an account, I get a feed, I start interacting. What's the problem?

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:15:47

People should be a lot more direct regarding their expectations and the rules. If you don't want something happening, say it up front. Don't do that Facebook thing where you get warnings from accounts that are fake. OK? You don't want someone here, say it, don't be a coward.

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 15:35:14

@MastodonEngineering Will it include some basic text editing such as bold or italicized? Just curious. 🙂

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 16:10:47

@MastodonEngineering The Docker command should be without the hyphen, right? -> ‘docker compose’

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:01:17

@MastodonEngineering and still no

* markdown formatting
* setting for increased post length
* quote posting
* proper account migration with data

The things users actually want and have been asking about for years

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:02:46

@MastodonEngineering
Hi, does the "followers you know" widget respect the choice some of us have made to keep our social graph private?

Föderation EN Mi 04.06.2025 17:27:49

@MastodonEngineering I have an open context query on Crowdin, could somebody please take a look? crowdin.com/editor/mastodon/38

I need a screenshot for "onboarding.follows.back" in en.json

Thanks! 🥰

Föderation EN Do 05.06.2025 05:57:33

@MastodonEngineering Quote posts? Seems like the only thing missing on Mastodon.

Föderation EN Fr 06.06.2025 15:09:30

@mike 4.4.0 has the first part of that (display), 4.5 will have the remaining part of the implementation. Stand by!