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Alex Wild

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 04:58:32

Wow people are somehow still on Twitter. Why?

Steve White

Föderation · Mo 16.01.2023 05:12:24

@alexwild I still have some good friends on twitter that I haven't persuaded to relocate to the Fediverse ... yet :D

So I still visit twitter to touch bases with them.

Elizabeth Alcinoe

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:17:15

@alexwild Good question. Because they are still there, they were never worth following in the first place. I don't miss them.

Ulrike

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:18:35

@alexwild
IDK, but I wish they'd stop bringing that shit here. I'm so tired of seeing "RT" in my feed.

Flatbush Gardener 🌈

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:19:48

@ulidig
I created a filter for "RT @". That works for me.

@alexwild

Ulrike

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:24:06

@xris @alexwild
Ooo. I'm going to have to figure out how to create filters!

mjfgates

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:32:39

@alexwild Because there's still no real way to support a patreon etc. over here, and people make their living off those, and some of the people who do that are interesting.

El Duvelle

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:55:09

@mjfgates Wait wouldn’t that just require a link to one’s Patreon website? Why would it not work on here?

mjfgates

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 11:00:36

@elduvelle Various reasons, but the most common seems to be that moving resets follow count to 0, therefore resetting INCOME to 0. People aren't going to starve to spite Elon, no matter how much of a fuckwit he is.

I know of one person who's managed to drag nearly their entire social-media graph over here quickly: SwiftOnSecurity. Everybody else seems to have less than 10% of their old follower count over here.

Emily Willingham 🦔

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 05:38:11

@alexwild because I am teaching a course for which I'd like to do some outreach to academics and it's more efficient over there, given the follower difference/reach. For some reason, they unbanned me and it was right when I needed to push out those queries.

Kris

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 06:39:32

@alexwild Have some great online friends there which whom I've been in touch with for years. Want to stay in that circle or friends as well..

Calamity Jan 🐍

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 07:16:43

@alexwild
1. Network effects. I can’t leave because several people that I find important and who I’m casual friends with are there and not here, and not anywhere else, either. As long as part of my social network is there, it holds me there. This is not surprising—Apple wields this with its Messages app.
2. Specific content: the coverage of cycling events is much worse here. I follow pro cyclists on Twitter. There is more cycling commentary on Twitter. This is also true of game dev. (And because I know a lot of people involved in both, see #1 again.)
3. News and government services: most news orgs are still there. The BC wildfire service is there and not here. I can get official government info about COVID there and not here.
4. Corporations. I can tweet at my internet provider and find the status of their network. I can complain to UPS or whoever about a missed delivery of their customer service fails me. Sometimes that works better.
5. All of the above. Twitter is a dumpster fire that’s crumbling, but in the meantime, it’s still a very powerful network.

I really enjoy Mastodon; I spend much more time here than Twitter now. But let’s not pretend that Twitter doesn’t have any value or utility. I hope a lot of those important services move over here, at least. But if they don’t, I’ll probably (unfortunately) keep on foot in that system forever.

El Duvelle

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 11:56:21

@vjgoh @alexwild Very interesting points… funny how they all just depend on the users, not anything to do with the software - basically if all users moved from it then none of these would be valid- demonstrating how we are the product 🤔​

Calamity Jan 🐍

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 14:36:21

@elduvelle @alexwild We are the “social” in “social network”. And that’s why many different configurations of social networks work and exist.

Florian Jug :mastodon:

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 07:20:29

@alexwild Inertia paired with laziness, plus a tablespoon of situation blindness.

Lameen Souag

Föderation EN Mo 16.01.2023 09:19:53

@alexwild Because this site has basically no members from Mali, or Niger, or even Algeria or Tunisia; no content in Kabyle or Songhay or Fulfulde (I have to work hard to even find toots in Arabic); because it makes it unreasonably hard to find anyone; because posting a linguistics question here feels like shouting into the void, while posting one in Twitter reliably gets well-informed replies from a variety of perspectives... There's a lot more to social media than ownership and infrastructure.

Karl Magnacca

Föderation EN Di 17.01.2023 00:10:32

@alexwild People are still in Texas too.

Alex Wild

Föderation EN Di 17.01.2023 00:43:58

@kmagnacca Yeah, leaving Texas and finding a job an housing elsewhere is totally free.

That's an assinine comparison.

Karl Magnacca

Föderation EN Di 17.01.2023 02:28:41

@alexwild no, but leaving Twitter isn’t cost-free either, even if it is financially. And paying taxes in a conservative state, or buying from Amazon or Walmart, means being a much bigger funder of fascism than reading Twitter with its abysmal revenue.

Alex Wild

Föderation EN Di 17.01.2023 03:47:40

@kmagnacca So I should go to prison for tax evasion, and that would be an equivalent cost in your eyes to voluntarily not visiting a website I used to visit more often?