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Augie Ray

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:14:02

The man who โ€œaccidentallyโ€ threw two Nazi salutes at a rally recently retweeted someone who claimed Stalin, Mao, and Hitler didn't murder millions--their government employees did.

These are the people running our government, in case you want to know what's ahead.

Elon Musk reposted Alice Smith, who said: 
Stalin, Mao and Hitler didn't
murder millions of people.
Their public sector workers did.

(Medien: 1)

sOlOw-NH

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:16:33

@augieray

...gulp...Musk is now a public sector worker... how many will he kill?

TP

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:25:46

@augieray but they are fighting anti semitism in colleges by taking down college presidents, cutting research, & imprisoning students ever so sincerely! /s

rhempel

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:28:54

@augieray It's obvious that Alice has very little grasp of nuance or history - and that's being generous.

Yes, public sector workers were the sharp end of the stick doing damage in those regimes.

They were sent to do their horrible tasks by lackeys installed by the leaders of those regimes, and the captains of industry that went along for the ride profited.

Sound familiar?

And of course, sometimes people like Alice found themselves looking at a pointy stick and were surprised.

Petunientopf

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:22:57

@rhempel @augieray the point is, that Musk as a government employee reposts this shit.

Sibshops

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:32:43

@augieray What's that even mean? Like it could be interpreted as "just following orders" is not a defensible excuse for murdering people, but it doesn't seem likely in that context. Elon is the one giving orders, here.

Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:51:38

@Sibshops @augieray Context is definitely needed. If one of my friends said it, I'd know enough about their character to figure they are saying "we need to be ready to refuse an immoral order" or something to that effect. When Melon Husk retweets it, knowing his lack of character, I assume he's defending Hitler or excusing mass layoffs.

crazyeddie

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:22:44

@Sibshops @augieray I think that he's trying to say that our government is filled with public sector Nazis? Maybe that all government bureaucracies get taken over by Nazis and drones that will do anything?

It's hard to say. It's actually a well known idea that's expressed often but it's in the context you are talking about. No, Hitler didn't act alone and could not have. There's a great book, "Hitler's willing executioners," that goes over some of this pertaining to the police forces.

Gurre Vildskägg

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:39:03

@Sibshops @augieray
I honestly thought it was obvious? They believe government is always evil. Taxes are always evil. Government should not exist at all. Right-wing might-makes-right wannabe dictators crushing everyone else ruthlessly. Sociopaths. They usually think we're all like them deep down and just faking being decent caring people, and only they are brave enough to be out and proud sociopaths.
Typical libertarians.

Roger Moore

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:21:01

@Sibshops @augieray
I think they're trying to say that public sector workers are the real villains as a way of justifying firing them. Funny how they're starting with the government workers who specialize in helping people while keeping the ones who are heavily armed and have a history of actually killing people.

David Mitchell :CApride:

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:36:49

@augieray

From the guy who is working night and day to reshape the government into something capable of murdering more of its own citizens โ€ฆ sounds like a warning.

GhostOnTheHalfShell

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:14:44

@DavidM_yeg @augieray

Oh yeah, it would be a threat.

Remember with these men, every accusation is a confession.

Daarin

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:41:45

@augieray If you are a government employee in the USA, here you can see, how the responsibilities will be shared between you and your bosses if anything goes wrong!

Casper ๐Ÿ‘ป

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:45:55

@augieray
The same people who will rid the world of musk

Robin Barton

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:51:48

@augieray Yes, and when Trump attacks his enemies with his goons will you keep Trump blameless and heap condemnation on his thugs?

Augie Ray

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:07:19

@Robo105 I don't hold him blameless now.

crazyeddie

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:29:11

@Robo105 @augieray I would actually hold them more accountable, yeah.

I think maybe Trump is barely there. Anyone involved can say, "no."

His goons and the people who voted for him, quite frankly. Without them Trump is some crazy little bitch crying screaming about people eating cats and dogs. Shitting and pissing himself. Just like now, except unable to do any damage.

In this case, the gun can say, "No!" In fact, it might be the only part of the situation that can.

Robin Barton

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:42:26

@crazyeddie @augieray If it comes to civil war that might be the only answer but I think civil organization which avoids war/violence would be a better solution. Killing Trump would only have him replaced by a younger smarter version. Revolutions eat their own children is the old saying and already MAGA is fracturing into fiefdoms. This will give an organized opposition its opportunity. The problem is that the left loves infighting over slight differences

crazyeddie

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:43:58

@Robo105 @augieray I didn't say anything about killing Trump.

Robin Barton

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:50:49

@crazyeddie @augieray My apologies. I mis-read your post

Toni Aittoniemi

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:53:25

@augieray The irony is, these people are leading a cultural revolution much like Stalin and Mao did.

And the carnage may yet arrive for USA as it did for the Russian and Chinese educated peoples.

๐ŸŸฅ Eveline Sulman  ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 15:54:22

@augieray The leader could then say: Ich habe es nicht getan. The people could say: Ich habe es nicht gewusst.

๐Ÿ˜ฑ

Bumbles

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:07:30

@augieray

oh shut up, shut up, shut uuuuuuup. What a toss pot. ๐Ÿคฌ๐Ÿคฌ

Helma

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:26:47

@augieray Too sick for words.

Helma

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:28:44

@augieray Honestly, following this reasoning, why didn't he share his money for the assembly of his Tesla-workers equally? He didn't make them. ๐Ÿ™Š๐Ÿ™‰

Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:50:02

@augieray So is he arguing that government employees should disobey his orders? That "only giving orders" is the new defense?

I'm confused!

Miss Gayle

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 16:57:55

@augieray

It's rather odd fo refer to the military as "public service workers." Public service workers are civilian and are managed by their various levels of department admins.

The military, who engaged in genocide under the first nazi regime, was neither of those things.

So no, it is the US military & paramilitary units directly controlled by cheeto & muskrat that will be responsible for the current unfolding holocaust - by doing it, or by failing to stop it.

They must own it.

csgraves

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:12:06

@MissGayle @augieray I'm hoping for large numbers of troops to disobey the upcoming invasion of Canada and Greenland orders. I feel weird saying it. Yes, the United States is actively engaging in planning and preparation for the invasion of Canada and Greenland.

It's not even a question now.

So, we're going to have to convince them that this order, lawful or otherwise, should be disobeyed.

Miss Gayle

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:26:38

@csgraves @augieray

Honestly, a military coup here would not hurt my feelings now.

csgraves

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:31:12

@MissGayle so long as foxnews boy who runs it is chained up.

Miss Gayle

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:37:27

@csgraves

Yes, the insurrectionists in Congress, on the Supreme Court, and cheeto's entire cabinet and administration, along with muskrat and his incel squad, should all be at gitmo on charges of treason, sedition, and insurrection. No bail, military trials, and then executed. What they've done for putin is far, far in excess of what the cold war era people were executed for.

Hot Dog Water, NotZee Squasher

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:01:37

@augieray
We're gonna find a video of that ridiculous boy in his 50,000 sqft bedroom playing Roseanne Barr's national anthem on 8 stereos, unsynchronized, while practicing his Absolute Nazi Salute in his Secret Squirrel Underoos in front of a life-size picture of himself in SS getup.

Cluster Fcku

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:25:44

@augieray Musk is detached from reality and jokes about autocrats, genocide, and people in the bottom 99.99%. That's why he's tribal besties with Trump. Millions & billions should stop listening to him. Instead, work harder to remove money's grip on political power.

Simx72 :gaming_kirby5:

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 17:43:20

@augieray isn't this lile bad for him

I mean, if i were a multimillionaire crazy fascist CEO, i would kind of hide it behind the mask of "this is good for you" like the rest of politicians

then, he wonders why his stocks are falling

GhostOnTheHalfShell

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:12:42

@augieray

Any sufficiently large corporation is indistinguishable from government

Hot Dog Water, NotZee Squasher

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:22:04

@augieray

So are these lead paint-licking idiots saying the exasperation of those three stay-dead motherfuckers over the decadent unruliness of their society forced their hand to kill hundreds of millions?

Or are they both intending to say that the workers mandated their leaders' murderous actions, empowering them with a vote implying support for their worst, because they never voiced dissent?

Either way, both'a those fuckups are monsters who eat death for thinking this way.
Blame victims.

therealsammy

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:23:02

@augieray the leaders and the people who followed them are all wrong

DTrasler Writing

Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 18:54:53

@augieray Ah, the old defence of "I was only issuing orders"...