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· Föderation EN So 23.03.2025 22:50:50

@evan @reiver okay correction: doesn't say anything substantive about federation! Completely useless to me as an implementer!

Föderation EN So 23.03.2025 23:02:46

@darius @reiver I guess I don't understand your point.

The spec mentions federation a few times, but mostly it is in fact describing how to implement federation, so most of the text is talking about lower-level objects.

Anyway, sounds like a fun event. Say hi to Blaine and Boris for me.

Föderation EN So 23.03.2025 23:08:45

@evan my point is there are no rules of the road for how content should be sent around the network. It's how you get phenomena like "boost leaking" that can get around blocks

Föderation EN So 23.03.2025 23:41:51

@darius I think the current best practice is to only use inclusion by ID for the `Announce` activity, for this very reason.

But I agree that the public-except-unpublished-denylist access mode is really hard to make work right.

I also think there are trade-offs between the efficiency of sending activities with lots of data, and the level of control when sending minimal activities. I have a long section about this in my book, but it might be good to include guidance in the Primer or the next AP.

Föderation EN So 23.03.2025 23:42:17

@evan agreed!