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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 13:13:42

iOS already has it, and other stores will soon have it ... long-awaited, and sometimes assumed to be impossible, features:

- Edit or delete your past messages. Finally you can typo-fix and retract your messages!

- Delete other's messages at once from all your own devices. Housekeeping bliss!

- Bookmark/Save any message to "Saved message". Better chances to find things back!

Your reaction?

(Sidenote: we are very tight on budget and appreciate donations delta.chat/en/donate -- cheers!)

46% Wow, finally. I was waiting for this!
59% Great but wait, how is this possible with e-mail?
8% Sounds good but also a bit scary!
6% Don't need it. But friends might appreciate it.

145 Stimmen, bis Di 18.03.2025 13:13:42

Ivan GJ

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 13:16:44

@delta
You are incredible. How are you able to crush everyone else so fast?

is seriously amazing. Thank you.

Christian Thäter

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 13:20:23

@delta Details please. Will the edit/history stay visible?

Delta Chat

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 13:27:03

@cehteh there is a marker for edited messages but no versioned history and no tombstone. The current UX was done after comparing with several other messengers. Current release is also the result of pragmatic implementation considerations and comes with the expectation that there will be refinements in later releases but based on real-world experiences rather than theoretic concerns (which we are aware of).

Feel free to open discussion topics on support.delta.chat if needed.

Lyyn ☮️

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 13:48:42

@delta @cehteh Why there is no "I actively don't like this change" in the quiz? About "retracting" "your" messages. Please, if you really want to cater to what other messengers are doing (unfortunately) at least add a big warning that this is best effort, depends entirely on cooperation from other clients/devices in the chat and does not provide any guarantees. Especially considering that people can use regular email clients which will never (hopefully) support that.
And ideally I would love to see a toggle to silently disable this behaviour of respecting deletion "orders" locally. This way you will avoid confrontation with your own userbase. You don't want to go the path of "your client will respect orders from some remote party regardless of what you want", right?

Joost

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 18:16:48

@delta well, is it covered by an RFC?

bjoern

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 18:42:00

@Jhelberg @delta in theory, it is covered by RFC 2076, 3.6 which i was using in the first place. in practise, it turns out that that part was used in the past for slightly different things. to not mix that up, we went for a dedicated header.

see and maybe join discussion at github.com/chatmail/core/pull/