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A Light Shining in Darkness

· Föderation PT So 16.03.2025 18:13:57

@perikitapreta @mrundkvist

The blinking clocks are also still here.
Even on completly new appliances.

Habrok

Föderation PT So 16.03.2025 19:15:47

@fzer0 @perikitapreta @mrundkvist And many of these appliances could easily get the current time (via NTP, radio clock, GPS,...) or do not really need a clock.

A Light Shining in Darkness

Föderation EN So 16.03.2025 19:19:30

@Habrok42 @perikitapreta @mrundkvist

Ya, but BigAppliance doesn't want that.
BigAppliance wants us to waste our precious time with setting the time on appliences that do not need a clock in the first place.

And not so sound like a conspiracy theroist but who knows, maybe they are behind the yearly summer/winter time change too.
:blobcatthinksmart:

Martin Hoffmann

Föderation PT So 16.03.2025 20:39:45

@Habrok42 @fzer0 @perikitapreta @mrundkvist Counter point: You need some sort of Internet connection for NTP, GPS
doesn’t work indoors, those nifty DCF-77 clocks only work within roughly a thousand kilometres of Frankfurt, and the clock in the oven is the most used clock in many households.

A Light Shining in Darkness

Föderation PT So 16.03.2025 20:59:31

@partim @Habrok42 @perikitapreta @mrundkvist

I see and acknowledge your facts and offer you this solution

CR2032 battery

(Medien: 1)

Stumpy The Mutt

Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 00:47:31

@fzer0 @partim @Habrok42 @perikitapreta @mrundkvist the company I work for has resisted putting a RTC in our routers because the lithium battery requires its own set of disposal methods and needs to follow local regulations which are quite different around Europe, never mind world wide. Super caps wouldn't last long enough to be workable.

Habrok

Föderation PT Mo 17.03.2025 00:23:17

@partim @fzer0 @perikitapreta @mrundkvist Valid points, but:
- more and more devices want WiFi for their app
- GNSS signals can get into buildings good enough for the time (only 1 satellite needed for "good enough" time, not 4 for the position)
- there are transmitters like DCF-77 in many countries worldwide (on other frequencies)
- digital radio like DAB+ can easily transport a time signal
- devices like my CO2 monitor or thermometers do not need an always visible clock

Cegorach

Föderation · So 16.03.2025 22:08:38

nah… I turn power for those things of via complicated logic, Zigbee, HomeAssistant and half a ton electrical crap

nothing blinking without battery anymore! (and if it's got a battery, it's not blinking)