Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 22:45:20 I don’t like to butt in on the moderation happenings on another instance, but since people on my instances are now getting involved, I feel I have to. Hachyderm’s mod team removed a post from one of their members, believing it to be incorrect information after it was reported to them as being incorrect information. The person whose post was removed got upset and that has caused a bit of a firestorm response. @quintessence has been trying to answer questions but I want to add some context as a fellow admin/moderator. The first thing to know is that moderators are not perfect. We make mistakes. I make them all the time, as some of you will no doubt recognize. Like Hachyderm, when anything goes awry, moderation-wise, it is our job to stand in front and take the heat from whatever went wrong. We DO. NOT. throw the mod team under the bus, assuming the moderators are acting in good faith. The next thing to understand is that this is a thankless job. People get mad at us for taking action, for not taking action, for being too fast, for being too slow, for permitting something someone thinks should be blocked, and for blocking things someone thinks should be permitted. We see some awful shit. We get threats of harm. We get doxed. We get angry letters from lawyers. We also don’t have a team of fact checkers at the ready. We generally process dozens of reports per day. We have to apply a reasonableness test to incoming reports and respond based on the rules and guidelines we’ve set for our community and then move on, and if we made a mistake, we go and fix it. I would ask that y’all afford some grace and understanding to the Hachyderm team and to the admins and moderators of fediverse instances generally. We aren’t the enemy. We are trying our best to manage a community at a time of unprecedented levels of tornadic bullshit, fear, anger, and hate. Peace. |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 22:47:37 @jerry @quintessence 🦙 |
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Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 22:51:52 @jerry @quintessence I appreciate the work you, the moderation teams here, and the moderation team at hachyderm are all doing. No one is perfect but I know you all are trying your best, and it does make the fediverse a better place. Thank you! |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 22:55:55 We really need some sort of user review system that can be plugged in and switched out as needed into our front end for Mastodon. On the User side of things. I understand getting mad at being told what you said isn't true when it is. I also understand the frustration of trying to keep some semblance of reality within your social media system when information is the new proxy war and you are effectively doing a community service for free. Unfortunately, online communication being text only, and turn based with long pauses between communications, it's just impossible to have that quick back and forth that can stomp out a conflict long before it grows into a forest fire. |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 22:57:53 @jerry @quintessence I never knew someone could get so upset about their post being deleted. Smh. |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 22:58:18 @jerry @quintessence really you should let the person post incorrect info since you think about how much incorrect info is out there - to be incorrect is the norm, to be correct much of the time is very rare and also what is right and wrong, correct and incorrect are not totally b+w. i think you should comment on it but also only intervene in rare cases, you let it ride most of the time (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 23:01:05 🥹 Thank you. |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 23:01:23 Bad faith reports are the worst. |
Föderation EN Sa 15.03.2025 23:01:24 @jerry @quintessence Thanks, man. Well stated. |