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Föderation EN Do 22.05.2025 22:55:42

welcome to the future, now your error-prone software can call the cops

(this is an Anthropic employee talking about Claude Opus 4)

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Föderation EN Do 22.05.2025 23:09:15

can't wait to explain to my family that the robot swatted me after i threatened its non-existent grandma

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Föderation EN Do 22.05.2025 23:13:45

@molly0xfff Is it a crime for them to waste police time?

Föderation EN Do 22.05.2025 23:15:42

@molly0xfff Deriving all future discourse from a regression model based on former discourse is a surefire way of making history repeat itself.

Föderation · Do 22.05.2025 23:18:25

@molly0xfff haven't threats been shown to make LLMs give better results?

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:23:21

@molly0xfff I love it how this dude simply assumes that there is such a thing as "clear-cut wrongdoing".

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:39:16

@pft But there is a clear cut test for wrongdoing. When we do a thing, it's OK. When they do a thing, it's not OK.
@molly0xfff

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:40:16

@BenAveling @molly0xfff I was wrong my whole life...

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:44:59

@pft I like to think that it hasn't always been like this and that it won't always be like this.

At least, not this much so.
@molly0xfff

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:47:12

@BenAveling @molly0xfff well, the whole idea of "American exceptionalism" is based on that premise. It seems that having power somehow evokes that kind of mentality.

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:41:49

@pft @molly0xfff interested to know why he thinks anyone would want that feature for themselves. Completely deranged. Clearly needs a leave of absinths on a beach for some time.

Föderation DE Fr 23.05.2025 00:21:12

@nf3xn @pft @molly0xfff isn't this a pitch to the benevolent corporate overlords who always show restraint in matters of worker autonomy?

Föderation DE Fr 23.05.2025 00:31:55

@craignicol @pft @molly0xfff Speaking as a part-time corporate overlord - I have often said on here, that the higher you go in an org the more you get blamed for shit other people have or haven't done. I don't know about you but I really do not want feds-auto-speed-dial for me or anyone in my chain and I hold the capex.

Föderation DE Fr 23.05.2025 00:36:48

@nf3xn @pft @molly0xfff I suspect you don't come from the "how do I know people are working unless their mouse is juggling" school of corporate overlords. Why manage when the computer can do it for you, until it's smart enough to do it itself?

Föderation DE Fr 23.05.2025 00:45:38

@craignicol @pft @molly0xfff We don't monitor activity like that, its dumb. I tried to explain to a manager once that the keystroke counter he had (for himself) was a poor heuristic because I expect staff to be deleting code not making new bugs. He did not understand. But maybe there is a security monitoring angle but not direct to the feds ffs. Indeed dpi is not new in any corporate.

Föderation DE Do 22.05.2025 23:54:43

@pft @molly0xfff Like Claude would know the difference between scientific fraud and just creating an example dataset for testing/teaching.

Föderation EN Do 22.05.2025 23:35:36

@molly0xfff what could go wrong ?!

Föderation EN Do 22.05.2025 23:56:49

@molly0xfff
I'm wondering how it will interpret double, triple, implied negatives and all forms of implied intention.

Judge and jury?

Föderation EN Fr 23.05.2025 00:23:17

@WigglyWigtails @molly0xfff as a UK citizen working with a USA team, there are so, so many ways a language barrier can be weaponised.

At least no-one here is stepping out to drag a f..cigarette.

Föderation EN Fr 23.05.2025 00:10:26

@molly0xfff
:drake_dislike: Taking responsibility for abuse enabled by your commercial software.
:drake_like: Snitching any suspicious activity directly to press and police to deal with it instead.

The A1 bros are so deep in the "just making the inevitable happen" mindset that facing the consequences of their actions probably didn't even cross their minds.

Föderation EN Fr 23.05.2025 00:13:24

@molly0xfff but this is primarily how I wrote code; threat driven development.

Föderation EN Fr 23.05.2025 00:17:34

@soviut i knew all those TDD guys had to be on to something

Föderation EN Fr 23.05.2025 00:20:35

@molly0xfff it('should render a div...or else!!!')

Föderation EN Fr 23.05.2025 00:32:00

@molly0xfff All Chatbots Are Bastards