· Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 07:12:38 @da_667 I would say code is where the utility is clearest, but the cost of making the tool valuable is utterly bananas compared to the value—and that's for quite the niche, to say nothing of everywhere else it's being mindlessly jammed. |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 07:14:28 @mttaggart I cannot fathom the fact that there are companies that are like "yah, sure, spinning up our own private reactors and diverting major water supplies to power a datacenter are a perfectly rational venture to create a computer program that cannot tell you how many r's there are in the word strawberry." |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 07:22:53 @da_667 This is what I'm saying. And this isn't VC money; this is public corporation strategy intended to maximize shareholder value. How is that happening? The only conclusion that makes sense is that these execs are bought in on the (let's call it what it is) religious belief, the article of faith, that this technology must be pursued at all costs. And I guess, in MS's case, hopes that everyone's models will live in Azure data centers. |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 07:29:01 @mttaggart we are the same mind on this, I think. There' is this willful suspension of disbelief that if enough tech heads say "AI is the future" it'll manifest into something useful. But all it is so far as a massive money sink. |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 08:07:54 @da_667 So I'm writing this up properly, but MS Earnings Statements show their adventure has not been punished by the market. In the case of cloud, growth outstripped everything else, so I guess everyone really is drinking the Kool-Aid. |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 08:24:54 @mttaggart correlation isn't causation, I think. There is a lot of sleight of hand going on here with Microsoft having tried to charge for AI services (e.g. github copilot) and just integrating AI into cloud services that nobody asked for (e.g. Microsoft 365 co-pilot). They aren't charging money for these services, just shoveling them out with whatever other stuff MS customers buy. |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 08:26:44 @da_667 I'm not saying they're directly profiting from the models. I'm saying they're not being punished for it in any meaningful way. But it's worth noting that end users are not the customers for their cloud services, and we actually have reason to believe that those business may indeed want AI for the same religious reasons. |
Föderation EN So 22.12.2024 08:28:17 @mttaggart ah, yeah, that's definitely a fair assessment. |