Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 08:08:41 When it comes to digital stuff, if you can’t
you’ve paid for an unstable rental of indeterminate duration, no matter how it was described to you. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 08:37:52 @neil true! |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 08:52:27 Yeah Ive been thinking about Steam a bit lately and its eventual enshittification. GOG seems like its the way to go, but by its namesake, the games sold there are "old" and will never see releases feom certain publishers there. For now, Steam is ok, but per the post, its "indeterminate duration" for how long before it enshitifies itself. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 10:14:47 @ike @jakob @neil Valve is an exception in the tech company world in that that it is not a publicly traded company, but a private-owned one - thus it is not required to make profit and bend over to appease stockholders. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 17:13:22 @ike GOG isn't just old games, there are new indie ones on there too: But yes, there are some games I bet you will never see on there, sadly. |
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Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 11:59:35 @nitinkhanna @neil not all of them but the ones I really like. I plan on having a steam library on my nas as an archive to increase that collection |
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Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:07:34 @RupertReynolds @leonerd Yes. Bandcamp for indie music; 7digital, Qobuz for more mainstream music. (7digital's downside is that a lot of what they offer is only available as high-quality MP3, so you are already on a lossy first generation by the time you get it, limiting future options.) And of course physical CDs (including pre-owned) which can be copied losslessly onto the computer and then losslessly compressed while adding album and track metadata. Similar for other types of media. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 23:11:21 @mkj @leonerd @neil I still buy CDs, often the originals before they were remastered (sometimes badly). I was ripping CDs to .flac with embedded cover pics and track data (and the most wanted DVDs to .mkv) once or twice a week for 10 years :-) I hoped storage costs would come down in time, and they did, so now the whole lot is on MicroSD in my phone, plus somewhere safe even if the discs get lost :-) |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 09:02:07 @neil that's why I use GOG and not Steam 🙂 |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 11:03:56 Bless their hearts. I don't know if they are making enough money doing this or not, but they are trying their best to save old games from death and obscurity. They recently redoubled their efforts through making sure all their old games work flawlessly on new systems. "Time is erasing the games that shaped you. Forgotten, incompatible, unplayable." |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 14:37:13 @NicoYozone Add itch.io to the DRM Free team. @neil |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 10:59:06 Yeah, I completely agree. Europeans, you all have once in a lifetime chance to save one form of digital art, Games! For everyone! Currently game publishers can take away your access to games when they shut down authentication servers. This EU bill aims to give users the ability to keep using the assets they paid for offline, on their own computers. Sign up and save a bit of your culture! Brought to you by EU MPs and Gaming fanatics. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 11:34:55 @neil If you are using anything digital that is stored on physical media or that interacts with an operating system, even if you "own" it, it's a rental. The only reliable long term solutions are analog (printed books, vinyl records) or subscription, where the vendor is maintaining the access (development, patching, cyber security, hosting all cost money). Hence the migration to subscriptions for most digital products. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 12:21:04 @GraemeWhitley @neil IDK, audio CDs are definitely not analog and I cannot see how they would be rental. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 12:37:10 @Methylzero @neil True. Some CDs rot a lot faster than print and vinyl - prone to oxidation, which was why I left them out. Point taken. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 13:32:42 @GraemeWhitley @neil |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 01:20:18 "If you are using anything digital that is stored on physical media ... even if you "own" it, it's a rental." Like, for one example, the digi pictures I myself took, kids, vacation, the usual stuff - and store on various physical hard drives - in what sense do I rent them? From whom? Is there any storage that doesn't use some physical medium at the end of the day, for that matter? |
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Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:03:59 Archiving digital media is a different proces than for analog. Multiple copies, test and/or copy regularily on new media. |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:35:02 Yes, digital is more work and much less convenient. For a telling example, compare the straightforward analog process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_splitting with the cumbersome copying of a digital artifact from one storage technology falling into disuse to its successor. Also, sharing and duplication of memorabilia to give it to different branches of family is so much easier with physical, e.g., pictures, than with their digital equivalents. |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:38:01 Either I don't understand you or you didn't understand me. This sounds like snarky sarcasm when I basically agreed with you. |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:41:49 It was intended to be sarcasm, and I was reacting to the "digital is more work". The rest we agree, yes. |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:52:19 Ah, ok. My thought was that you can put analog media in a box for 30-50 years and it will be somewhat usable (I'm in the process of scanning my childhood photos at the moment...) while reading files after 50 years requires usually more effort. If one really intents to store media for much longer (or without degradation), analog can get arbitrarily complex, of course. |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:39:42 Was given a 50 year old analog picture the other day. The owner was about to trash it, as she did with many others same age, as the colors had faded unfavorably. |
Föderation · Mi 26.02.2025 11:35:26 @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk this is why I no longer pay for ebooks. it's practically impossible to get them DRM free |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 12:06:50 @neil that why I pirate |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 12:38:00 @neil I have never and will never understand how people are comfortable with the fact that their Internet connection can just have a bad day and then suddenly so much of their content is just gone until it feels like working again. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 12:38:52 @nazokiyoubinbou Yes! |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 12:49:32 @neil that's why I love gog.com: you can download all your game installers for a full-offline experience and without DRM |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 13:09:09 @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk |
Föderation DE Mi 26.02.2025 15:07:29 @neil You absolutely can do all those things if you don't care if it's legal or not. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 15:32:51 @neil |
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Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 15:52:57 @neil |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 15:58:04 @neil 1000% agree |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:08:35 @neil people still pay for software? |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:16:08 @macacator Based on the significant number of console sales each year, yes? |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:31:11 @neil oh console sales? My apologies, I thought you were referring to software in general. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:33:24 @macacator My original toot was much broader - all digital stuff! I was really thinking books and films. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:35:44 @neil I see, hence the question lol. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 16:22:50 And if you can't fine non DRM things - as Louis Rossman says, piracy is justified. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 17:08:07 @neil What could Possibly go Wrong? |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 17:29:21 @neil the only TRUE ownership is 🏴☠️ |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 17:32:46 Even if you “purchase” a digital product like a movie, TV show or game from a service, they can take it away from you at any time without notice or recourse. The Only True Religion Is Physical Media…. |
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Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 18:49:17 @neil This is why I love libro.fm. It's one of the fairest business models I've seen so far. |
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Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 20:35:41 I have returned to physical media. |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 21:08:22 @neil I don't know of anything that isn't open source that satisfies more than two of the above. |
Föderation · Do 27.02.2025 00:21:34 @n8chz @neil |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 21:22:00 @neil I just found Libro.fm and I am so happy. I never bought audiobooks because “rental” |
Föderation EN Mi 26.02.2025 22:03:22 @neil Maybe there's a web native way to do this, but I still want to be able to work offline, and not rely on black box cloud services so much for sync and config. |
Föderation EN Do 27.02.2025 12:12:01 @neil * |