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· Föderation EN Di 21.01.2025 19:21:58

@katharina_buholzer @kubikpixel the relay currently is a centralized component (because only Bluesky (the company) provided one which covers all the PDS). But ATproto allows to have several.

Föderation EN Di 21.01.2025 19:34:08

@kubikpixel @katharina_buholzer I know, I wrote one myself :-) There are currently two central elements, the relay and the DID generator. Both are implementation-side problems, not inherent to the protocol.

Föderation EN Di 21.01.2025 19:36:38

@nohillside @kubikpixel Sure. I know that. And building a reliable broker involves access to considerable computing power. My point is: the entire activity pub architecture (fediverse etc) was build by a freshman as a semesterarbeit and does not really contemplate what distributed computing involves. That is why the background services on a daily basis crash with http 503 or have ddos like phenomena. I really know what I talk about here.

Föderation EN Mi 22.01.2025 08:20:40

@katharina_buholzer @kubikpixel arenβ€˜t you mixing architecture with implementation here? The ActivityPub protocol itself doesnβ€˜t suffer from 503 ;-)

Anyway: both protocols struggle with scaling, just on different aspects. Which kind of is unavoidable, scaling decentralized systems is hard.