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Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:13:16

To all men...
Please do this.

To all men ..
Please download an app called.  "FLO"
And use it to record your menstrual cycle...
Please have all your friends join in

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Nazani

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:27:18

@palin Maybe we postmenopausal women should do the same.

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:58:05

@Nazani
I did...
I am due in July 🤫

Nazani

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 14:28:34

@palin
Well, when those coupons start showing up, there are probably local groups you can pass them on to. 🍼

Be_Outside

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:44:55

@palin
I'm an old white male who will definitely be downloading and sharing my cycle on this app, starting tomorrow morning.

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:57:28

@Rural_Canadian 🤫
Yeah me too...
I am due in July.

*|FNAME|* 🇨🇦

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 04:45:10

@palin @Rural_Canadian
I’m feeling a heavy flow day coming on…

Offbeatmammal

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:18:32

@palin if an app like this is useful/helpful, I wonder if there's an opportunity for a zero-trust, anonymized, end to end encrypted solution hosted/based somewhere privacy friendly (Switzerland seems to be the de facto choice). Need to make sure any payment (one off, or subscription) also can't be tied to the account.

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:27:30

@Offbeatmammal
I don't think it's going to be very helpful by the time we get done with it ...😉

Offbeatmammal

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:32:03

@palin ha ha! I was thinking as an alternative that actually helps women without making them more vulnerable. Happy to help confuse Flo as well ;)

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:40:05

@Offbeatmammal Awesome 👍
The more the merrier... globally!!

wall-e / Daniel

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:12:11

@Offbeatmammal @palin this is the kind of app that, apart from serving surveillance capitalism, doesn't really have a good reason to utilize cloud storage. So no hosting required :D

I know some friends that are pretty happy with bloodyhealth.gitlab.io/ which is open source and data stays on device

George Saich

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:13:14

@Offbeatmammal @palin
It is something the state of Texas and after January the US government will try to subpoena.

Cegorach

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:13:58

@Offbeatmammal @palin why have hosting at all?

couldn't such data be stored… you know… local?

I mean, the most complicated operation I can see it doing on that data is… substraction of one date from another? I could do that with a pen on paper nearly as fast!

Other than that it's a bunch of predefined constants and info-texts?

Offbeatmammal

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:09:53

@drazraeltod @palin that would make much more sense, unless there is value in comparative datasets (but making it optional and ensuring anonymity would be the only way people should opt in)

Dave

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:57:18

@drazraeltod this is specifically why dripapp.org/ exists ;)

Dave

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:56:33

@Offbeatmammal @palin please let me introduce you to dripapp.org/

Sheila DeBonis

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:00:04

@palin I've seriously thought about telling my gyno to put fake data in my medical records. Some pregnancies, abortions, and other strange things.

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:06:06

@sheiladebonis
We are going to have a blast with this...
It needs to go global so please get everyone you know on it.
We can crush them with false data...

Eric Beckman

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:04:14

@palin
Done! Had to lie about my age. Also, lied about menstruating and my weight.
@socprof

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Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:07:55

@ERBeckman
It's okay...
I am pregnant and will be aborting before long...

Eric Beckman

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:12:15

@palin @ERBeckman It's a very affirming app! I feel better about my fake self already!

Jay

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:13:50

@ERBeckman @palin @socprof Lying about weight is a time honored feminine tradition, so you’re doing good so far!

George Saich

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:06:54

@ERBeckman @palin @socprof
Oh, I went whole Linebacker height and weight.

binchicken

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:06:17

@palin i like to think of myself as a responsible plant owner, perhaps i should be tracking the cycle of my ornamental taro

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:09:20

@thegarbagebird
It will work...
And get ready to start calling clinics because you need advice...
Nebraska and Idaho are good...
So is Texas 😂😂

binchicken

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:23:33

@palin yes, this is regarding my query last week about germination cycles. what would you recommend given the uncommonly dry spring? no, doctor, not tara, taro. t-a-r-o. ornamental taro

Jay

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:16:08

@palin Movember -> Flovember: pick a random period tracker app and say you’re a 26 year old woman and every day you see a red car in the morning is a day you’re “spotting red”.

Have fun.

CubeOfCheese

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:47:50

@palin I don't understand how this is helpful. Can someone explain? Who are we trying to throw off?

Janeishly

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:57:52

@cubeofcheese @palin The app is tracking data that, when sold to data brokers, allows women who are pregnant to be identified. And whether or not they have an abortion.

Jens N

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:44:23

@Janeishly @cubeofcheese @palin

Sure, but adding invalid data to one account does not invalidate data on another account. Using it "chaotically" will not make me appear pregnant, so it won't even pollute the sold dataset.

I don't see how that achieves anything. Wouldn't it be better to educate potential real users not to use this app in the first place?

Dave

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:58:37

@Janeishly @cubeofcheese @palin generally speaking, random data doesn't do much. Chaos can be filtered out quite easily.

benny

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 12:12:00

@Janeishly @cubeofcheese @palin and how would it help to put in my "manstrual" cycle? In how far would their data be useless?
Sorry, but I'm sometimes slow to understand

Bill Hooker

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:18:00

@cubeofcheese I have much the same question. I understand poisoning data, but the concern with this app (IF I understand it) is not about pooled data, but surveillance of individual accounts (people). So how will this help anyone?

@palin

TayFoNay🍿

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:49:57

@sennoma @cubeofcheese @palin An accurate algorithm will be needed for surveillance of this many people. I assume.

Bill Hooker

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:52:55

@tayfonay @cubeofcheese @palin

This post answers all my questions (tl;dr, this won't achieve anything useful):

hachyderm.io/@hrefna/113462751

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:08:50

@sennoma
It's just to clog the machinery...
That's it
Just like applying for jobs at the Heritage Foundation...
Clog the machine.

Bill Hooker

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 17:31:52

@palin Ah, that I understand. Sand in the gears. ✊

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 18:29:02

@sennoma
Many , many ways for all of us to resist without violence.
And we get to laugh while doing so .

Morten Hilker-Skaaning

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:55:40

@palin Flo is paid subscription, might be hard to pull off

Dave Rahardja

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:03:45

@morten_skaaning @palin It’s free to track periods, IIRC

Morten Hilker-Skaaning

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:17:28

@drahardja @palin gotta retry then. I was required to pay for "mine"..

Eric

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:30:04

@palin

I'll join the fun, let chaos reign!

billy joe bowers - hates nazis

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:37:25

@palin

I started to, but I wasn't comfortable with the permissions they wanted, even for screwing around. I can't imagine using things like this for real.

Flominator

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:40:22

@palin
I have questions ..
@LoganFive

Dave Rahardja

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:53:41

@palin Holy shit this is amazing

George Saich

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:03:15

@palin
OMG! I am not a woman, if I was there is no fking way I would answer the questions they are asking. I don't give a sht what benefit they claim they will provide, giving this information to a phone app is incredibly risky. Their user license tells you they will collect your data and snoop on you outside the app. NO! As a 60+ man let them try tracking my periods, and helping me understand them, but there is NO WAY you should tell them about yours. Please don't.

Dave Rahardja

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:05:19

@geos @palin I mean, a huge number of people take a cotton swab to their cheeks and send their DNA to 24AndMe so it can be monetized, so my expectations are extremely low.

George Saich

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:25:03

@drahardja @palin
No one should do that either. Contrary to what they may imply we have no real idea how the data is being the handled or where.

jesterchen42

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:03:30

@palin Whoa. Just going through the initial quick setup gave me a headache, both for the length and the data gathered.

LovesTha🥧

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:12:00

@palin Don't use it too chaotically, complete noise is much too easy to filter out.

foax

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:19:35

@palin additionally, we should encourage people to use apps such as "periodical" by Arno Welzel, which is privacy friendly.

Daniel Lundin

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:50:50

@palin I realize this is a bit of fun, but I'll be the no fun security person and point out that this does, in fact, not help privacy or safety of anybody.

Chaotic/troll usage is easily filtered, and you add surveillance software to your phone (which they capitalize on no matter your use or intent).

But most importantly - any time spent "trolling" is lost forever.

Spend that time advocating privacy and human friendly alternatives instead.

Cato

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:10:38

@palin As a man who had a menstrual cycle, I hate this post. Please don't forget that trans people exist. It hurts.

Andreas K

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:23:55

@palin Yeah, because filtering the data against a join the personal data and sex='f' is magic.

th4

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:37:20

@palin I'm pretty sure you can filter the noise out of the data rather easily.

Tanquist

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:41:31

@palin
Flo sez I'm now 33% more likely to conceive. Yay!
As long as google/android is enshittifying my phone, I'll use it to enshittify flo.

Eric the Cerise

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:47:20

@palin

Actually honeypot this.

Men, learn how to simulate a terminated pregnancy thru this app, and see who shows up at your door to ask you about it.

Report back.

Edit: Think first. Make sure there are no uterus-owners in your household, who could conceivably get blamed for it.

DrOps

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:18:11

@palin As I have no Google Account, I am not allowed to have periods, sorry

Codeschubse

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:59:51

@palin I urgently have to get a second phone. My phone has no google on it and the app doesn't work without. This is fun. Why do I feel like I'm a spy or something? :D The name's Bond, Jamenstruation Bond.

cpm

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 12:07:31

@palin
hrmmmm

myrmepropagandist

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 12:35:07

@palin I don’t know how effective this stuff is but this made me smile. Thanks.

Robert Sander

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 13:26:18

@palin Or use dripapp.org/ from @dripapp and the data stays on your device.

sophie 🏳️‍⚧️

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 13:40:57

@palin Be the person data engineers hate 😈

TripleTom 🛞🎸💻🥋📻

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 14:16:57

@palin I honestly tried, but it isn't free.

Dane

Föderation · Mo 11.11.2024 14:30:47

@palin@mastodon.social

"Weeelll sumtime ah get dem menstrul cramps reeeal hard...." - Male inmate from the movie "Raising Arizona"

$BEDAST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 14:44:57

@palin @DukeDuke As a data person who works with data analysts and data scientists, along with platform engineers, you don’t want chaotic data. Outliers are easy to filter out. And, besides, individual users can be tracked anyway.

You want believable data. Something that shouldn’t be obviously filtered out.

Work with the women in your life on how to do this.

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:13:21

@bedast Cool ...let them track me...
I could care less.
My intent is to clog the machinery.
In every way possible...
And as a date person , have you considered a job with the Heritage Foundation?
We desperately need to infiltrate and hopefully get some hackers inside the foundation to wreck it.

Niku

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:30:38

@palin Hmmm... sounds fun manipulating that data and maybe even getting some gender euphoria out of it :neocat_cool_fingerguns:
But why exactly this app?^^
I'm not criticising, just curious

No Gods , no Masters! RESIST

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:49:26

@niku
Not sure...
Basically we are trying to clog the machinery on everything we can.

Another app to report your fake data . 
Clog the machines that fascists are trying to use.

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JohnB

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 19:09:21

@palin this thread makes many points about why it’s pointless since most of the junk data can be filtered by a simple DB query hachyderm.io/@hrefna/113465471

Gabriele Svelto

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 20:04:15

@palin lmao I'm totally gonna do this

Benjamin

Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 20:04:30

@palin I selected "heard from influencers". Guess that's fine ;)