Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:13:16 To all men... (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:27:18 @palin Maybe we postmenopausal women should do the same. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:58:05 @Nazani |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 14:28:34 @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:34:00 @palin 👍💯👍😂 |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:44:55 @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 03:57:28 @Rural_Canadian 🤫 |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 04:45:10 @palin @Rural_Canadian |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:18:32 @palin if an app like this is useful/helpful, I wonder if there's an opportunity for a zero-trust, anonymized, end to end encrypted solution hosted/based somewhere privacy friendly (Switzerland seems to be the de facto choice). Need to make sure any payment (one off, or subscription) also can't be tied to the account. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:27:30 @Offbeatmammal |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:32:03 @palin ha ha! I was thinking as an alternative that actually helps women without making them more vulnerable. Happy to help confuse Flo as well ;) |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 05:40:05 @Offbeatmammal Awesome 👍 |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:12:11 @Offbeatmammal @palin this is the kind of app that, apart from serving surveillance capitalism, doesn't really have a good reason to utilize cloud storage. So no hosting required :D I know some friends that are pretty happy with https://bloodyhealth.gitlab.io/ which is open source and data stays on device |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:13:14 @Offbeatmammal @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:13:58 @Offbeatmammal @palin why have hosting at all? couldn't such data be stored… you know… local? I mean, the most complicated operation I can see it doing on that data is… substraction of one date from another? I could do that with a pen on paper nearly as fast! Other than that it's a bunch of predefined constants and info-texts? |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:09:53 @drazraeltod @palin that would make much more sense, unless there is value in comparative datasets (but making it optional and ensuring anonymity would be the only way people should opt in) |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:57:18 @drazraeltod this is specifically why https://dripapp.org/ exists ;) |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:56:33 @Offbeatmammal @palin please let me introduce you to https://dripapp.org/ |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:00:04 @palin I've seriously thought about telling my gyno to put fake data in my medical records. Some pregnancies, abortions, and other strange things. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:06:06 @sheiladebonis |
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Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:07:55 @ERBeckman |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:12:15 @palin @ERBeckman It's a very affirming app! I feel better about my fake self already! |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:13:50 @ERBeckman @palin @socprof Lying about weight is a time honored feminine tradition, so you’re doing good so far! |
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Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:06:54 @ERBeckman @palin @socprof |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:06:17 @palin i like to think of myself as a responsible plant owner, perhaps i should be tracking the cycle of my ornamental taro |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:09:20 @thegarbagebird |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:23:33 @palin yes, this is regarding my query last week about germination cycles. what would you recommend given the uncommonly dry spring? no, doctor, not tara, taro. t-a-r-o. ornamental taro |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:16:08 @palin Movember -> Flovember: pick a random period tracker app and say you’re a 26 year old woman and every day you see a red car in the morning is a day you’re “spotting red”. Have fun. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:47:50 @palin I don't understand how this is helpful. Can someone explain? Who are we trying to throw off? |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:57:52 @cubeofcheese @palin The app is tracking data that, when sold to data brokers, allows women who are pregnant to be identified. And whether or not they have an abortion. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:44:23 @Janeishly @cubeofcheese @palin Sure, but adding invalid data to one account does not invalidate data on another account. Using it "chaotically" will not make me appear pregnant, so it won't even pollute the sold dataset. I don't see how that achieves anything. Wouldn't it be better to educate potential real users not to use this app in the first place? |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:58:37 @Janeishly @cubeofcheese @palin generally speaking, random data doesn't do much. Chaos can be filtered out quite easily. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 12:12:00 @Janeishly @cubeofcheese @palin and how would it help to put in my "manstrual" cycle? In how far would their data be useless? |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:18:00 @cubeofcheese I have much the same question. I understand poisoning data, but the concern with this app (IF I understand it) is not about pooled data, but surveillance of individual accounts (people). So how will this help anyone? |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:49:57 @sennoma @cubeofcheese @palin An accurate algorithm will be needed for surveillance of this many people. I assume. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:52:55 @tayfonay @cubeofcheese @palin This post answers all my questions (tl;dr, this won't achieve anything useful): |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:59:22 @sennoma @cubeofcheese @palin Thanks |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:55:26 @sennoma Thanks, I was wondering the same. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:08:50 @sennoma |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 17:31:52 @palin Ah, that I understand. Sand in the gears. ✊ |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 18:29:02 @sennoma |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 06:55:40 @palin Flo is paid subscription, might be hard to pull off |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:03:45 @morten_skaaning @palin It’s free to track periods, IIRC |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:17:28 @drahardja @palin gotta retry then. I was required to pay for "mine".. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:30:04 I'll join the fun, let chaos reign! |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:37:25 I started to, but I wasn't comfortable with the permissions they wanted, even for screwing around. I can't imagine using things like this for real. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:40:22 @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 07:53:41 @palin Holy shit this is amazing |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:03:15 @palin |
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Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:25:03 @drahardja @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:03:30 @palin Whoa. Just going through the initial quick setup gave me a headache, both for the length and the data gathered. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:12:00 @palin Don't use it too chaotically, complete noise is much too easy to filter out. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:19:35 @palin additionally, we should encourage people to use apps such as "periodical" by Arno Welzel, which is privacy friendly. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 08:50:50 @palin I realize this is a bit of fun, but I'll be the no fun security person and point out that this does, in fact, not help privacy or safety of anybody. Chaotic/troll usage is easily filtered, and you add surveillance software to your phone (which they capitalize on no matter your use or intent). But most importantly - any time spent "trolling" is lost forever. Spend that time advocating privacy and human friendly alternatives instead. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:10:38 @palin As a man who had a menstrual cycle, I hate this post. Please don't forget that trans people exist. It hurts. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:23:55 @palin Yeah, because filtering the data against a join the personal data and sex='f' is magic. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:37:20 @palin I'm pretty sure you can filter the noise out of the data rather easily. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:41:31 @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 09:47:20 Actually honeypot this. Men, learn how to simulate a terminated pregnancy thru this app, and see who shows up at your door to ask you about it. Report back. Edit: Think first. Make sure there are no uterus-owners in your household, who could conceivably get blamed for it. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 10:13:20 @palin Open source apps with local data storage: |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:18:11 @palin As I have no Google Account, I am not allowed to have periods, sorry |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 11:59:51 @palin I urgently have to get a second phone. My phone has no google on it and the app doesn't work without. This is fun. Why do I feel like I'm a spy or something? :D The name's Bond, Jamenstruation Bond. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 12:07:31 @palin |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 12:35:07 @palin I don’t know how effective this stuff is but this made me smile. Thanks. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 13:26:18 @palin Or use http://dripapp.org/ from @dripapp and the data stays on your device. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 13:40:57 @palin Be the person data engineers hate 😈 |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 14:16:57 @palin I honestly tried, but it isn't free. |
Föderation · Mo 11.11.2024 14:30:47 @palin@mastodon.social |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 14:44:57 @palin @DukeDuke As a data person who works with data analysts and data scientists, along with platform engineers, you don’t want chaotic data. Outliers are easy to filter out. And, besides, individual users can be tracked anyway. You want believable data. Something that shouldn’t be obviously filtered out. Work with the women in your life on how to do this. |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:13:21 @bedast Cool ...let them track me... |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:30:38 @palin Hmmm... sounds fun manipulating that data and maybe even getting some gender euphoria out of it |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 15:49:26 @niku (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 19:09:21 @palin this thread makes many points about why it’s pointless since most of the junk data can be filtered by a simple DB query https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/113465471480087185 |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 20:04:15 @palin lmao I'm totally gonna do this |
Föderation EN Mo 11.11.2024 20:04:30 @palin I selected "heard from influencers". Guess that's fine ;) |