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Patrick $8 :verified:

Patrick $8 :verified: (@phurd@infosec.exchange)

Föderation EN Do 01.08.2024 21:52:33

@RenewedRebecca I think Jerry's original post accurately describes the problems with both server-based and user-based moderation. The insult-to-injury portion of the issue is that the impacted users are directed to assume the responsibility of user-based moderation. So while additional user-based moderation tools may be helpful, they are also an additional barrier to entry as part of the Mastodon sign-up process and provide additional ammo to the "fedi-experts" as Jerry called them

One advantage and under-developed feature of the fediverse is migrating to another server. Improving the migration workflow will allow users to leave instances who are not using their server-based moderation tools sufficiently. This could potentially be implemented with an invite system to facilitate the conversation with users describing their experience with harassment.

Becky

Becky (@RenewedRebecca@oldbytes.space)

Föderation EN Do 01.08.2024 21:58:07

@phurd Again, since you don’t quite seem to be listening, I am not advocating for user-based moderation.

I am advocating for community-based moderation.

Heck, when signing up, a new user could be given a nice curated group of blocklists to subscribe to. We spread the moderation task across the entire community instead of placing the burden on the victims.

Making it easier to move instances would be great for a lot of reasons, but it doesn’t remotely solve the racism-on-fedi or transphobia-on-fedi problems. (Not to mention the .social lack of moderation problem.)

Patrick $8 :verified:

Patrick $8 :verified: (@phurd@infosec.exchange)

Föderation EN Do 01.08.2024 22:01:51

@RenewedRebecca Users making decisions about what blocklist to subscribe to is a burden. I consider this decision to be part of user-based moderation since it is an action taken by users individually. It's fine if you disagree about that