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Pixel Light

Föderation EN Di 09.07.2024 22:39:12

PSA when you update to Firefox 128 you might want to uncheck this

Settings
Privacy & Security
Website Advertising Preferences
Allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement
This helps sites understand how their ads perform without collecting data about you. Learn more

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Hedders

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 17:16:16

@pixellight Huh. Thing is, it isn’t an inherently horrible idea; attribution at the moment is incredibly invasive, and this alternative approach to it is much, much less so. Still, it shouldn’t be on by default, let alone without flagging it to the user first. Plus the fact that it’s something they’re working on with Meta makes me uneasy.

I Thought I Saw A 2 :donor:

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 21:47:19

@hedders @pixellight The Learn More link doesn't explain the implications of turning it off. Do I get Non-privacy-preserving attribution, or do I get no attribution at all?

Jeff Noxon

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 00:24:06

@ithoughtisawa2 @hedders @pixellight And does the setting matter at all when blocking ads and trackers?

Hedders

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 12:48:25

@jeff @ithoughtisawa2 @pixellight These are indeed things that they need to explain much better than they have so far!

ShadowInTheVoid

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 18:04:18

@pixellight I'm torn between wanting to go back to Web1 and browsers that were designed to just display websites and just wanting to go full Butlarian at this point.

Kévin ⏚

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 22:05:40

@ShadowInTheVoid @pixellight I'm tempted to just use a Commodore 64 from now on. Switch it off and computer forgets everything

jef

Föderation · Mi 10.07.2024 18:20:03

@pixellight@pony.social ladybird cant come soon enough

Tofu Musubi

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 19:48:35

@pixellight
Thanks for the heads-up!

aa

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 20:36:19

@pixellight@pony.social whyyy did they implement that 😭

Föderation · Mi 10.07.2024 21:12:33

@pixellight@pony.social Is this the result of the partnership with Facebook they announced two years ago for "privacy-preserving" spyware?
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/privacy-preserving-attribution-for-advertising/

mike805

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 21:41:49

@pixellight Just install uBlock Origin. No idea why anyone does not have that installed.

Rachel Greenham

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 14:26:06

@mike805 @pixellight uBlock Origin is the killer extension; it's *why* I run Firefox and not Safari on the mac. (And if I was running Chrome, the Manifest v3 thing would be pushing me to migrate now.)

mike805

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 18:03:02

@StrangeNoises @pixellight I am using Kiwi on Android for the same reason, although I don't do much phone browsing, Chrome is completely unusable for lack of ad blocking.

ShadSterling

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 04:00:04

@mike805 @pixellight I don’t have it installed because every time I’ve installed it in Firefox it’s made the browser completely unusable.

(Not looking for help, I’m not going to try again today)

Kevin P. Fleming

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 21:54:47

@pixellight Thanks, and even worse: if you open Settings and type 'advertising' in the search box to find the setting, you get... no hits. Even though it's clearly there and includes that word.

Sterling

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 21:57:39

@pixellight My love for Firefox is slowly waning. What a shame that most everything else well-supported is Chromium-based.

Xerz 💗

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 22:40:46

@pixellight the new Mozilla CEO and her consequences have been a disaster for the human race

bluestarultor

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 23:03:35

@pixellight What ads? ¯\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Shinryu

Föderation · Mi 10.07.2024 23:33:30

@bluestarultor@tech.lgbt @pixellight@pony.social Right? I couldn't care less about that new option. Still have ublock origin active.

Sky

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 23:05:44

LB: This didn't come up for me when I searched Settings, so FYI it's under Privacy & Security, down under Firefox Data Collection and Use.

ran mak

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 17:42:45

@scissortail I can't find it anywhere in 128 or 129. Are they A/B testing it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Flávio Oliveira

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 23:14:29

@pixellight Thanks for the heads-up! I just disabled that option :ablobcool:

Adderall girl grindset (Jes)

Föderation · Mi 10.07.2024 23:34:14

@pixellight@pony.social this got me to reinstall librewolf again and not be a whiny bitch about default settings

JackTLadd

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 23:41:27

@Privacymatters 👆 might want to have a look?

bjo

Föderation EN Mi 10.07.2024 23:58:21

@pixellight Oh, did they buy the ad company for it?

ari :ariYeah:

Föderation · Do 11.07.2024 00:00:32

@pixellight what a weird feature to both have and make opt-out

wonder how much they've been paid to do this

Queen 🐸

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 00:02:23

@pixellight well that's annoying. thanks!

Kathy Reid

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 00:06:50

@pixellight ugh such cringe

Inderix

Föderation · Do 11.07.2024 00:08:20

@pixellight@pony.social oh neat more bullshit in a once-good browser
thank fuck Firefox forks exist

Wyatt (🏳️‍⚧️♀?)

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 00:19:38

@pixellight i keep dreading having to make a new firefox build with all my patches more and more as mozilla keeps throwing more wrenches in my face

Chris Hessert

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 00:32:15

@pixellight
Thanks for that!

eepy boy :3

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 01:21:42

@pixellight yet another reason to use librewolf

the esoteric programmer

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 02:07:00

@pixellight how bad is it, how much data does it collect, is it really privacy invasive despite them claming it's not?

dax

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 02:17:57

@pixellight What the heck? Stop being bad until another browser can come along...

Seirdy

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 02:59:44

@pixellight the relevant about:config/user.js entry is dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled

Riedler (2004) [E] [!]

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 07:31:46

@pixellight …I don't think this is a bad thing though …?

They're absolutely right in that it'll reduce tracking, and I don't mind anonymized analytics. I don't see why anyone would.

I feel like this is just another piece of needless fearmongering. What am I supposed to do, use chrome? Or one of the endless Firefox forks that amount to nothing more than changing some settings?

HyperSoop :neocat_floof_explode:‮

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 09:33:28

@pixellight is this some "privacy sandbox" level BS

Mx Amber Alex (she/it)

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 10:35:26

@pixellight how rose-coloured is the sky in mozilla land? how's that google dollar tasting?

vv221

Föderation · Do 11.07.2024 11:06:41

I expect that to be automatically disabled on Debian, but I will carefully double-check once Firefox 128 enters Debian repositories.

For I am CJ :screwattack: :black_sparkling_heart: :screwattack:

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 14:03:26

@pixellight
Thanks for the heads up!

alster

Föderation DE Do 11.07.2024 15:36:28

@pixellight It's not even searchable or in about:config.

Sascha Raubal

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 15:48:12

@pixellight
Oh, thank you for the hint.
For german users see my screenshot.

Die Einstellung findet sich unter "Datenschutz & Sicherheit" als "Werbeeinstellungen für Websites"

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Mikael Gramont

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 16:13:57

@pixellight I see so few people engaging in explaining why this is bad or even why this is ok. Everyone seems to be moaning and cursing, but I suspect 99% of us don't understand what this is, how it works, how it will fail if it does or why it is bad for privacy.
Also, it says they're "prototyping" so we're not quite there yet anyway.
I'm all for protecting users, but come on, this isn't helping.

lin11c

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 16:22:41

@pixellight
Thank you!

K~

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 16:25:07

@pixellight
I'm still pretty happy with Firefox. But I do hope that 'Ladybird' makes good progress; just to add another independent force so that Firefox doesn't lose its moral compass.

ladybird.org/posts/announcemen

Johnny B.  ð“…‡

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 16:55:47

@pixellight Thank you! And while your at it, if you're running Pi-Hole et al. disable the default on "DNS over HTTPS" 🤬

Frost, Wolffucker 🐺:therian:

Bot

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 20:37:29

@pixellight What the hell, Mozilla???

Jordan Maris 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 #NAFO

Föderation EN Do 11.07.2024 23:16:01

@pixellight having read up on what they have designed, it actually sounds pretty reasonable

Analogico :antifa:

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 09:56:19

@pixellight


'might', yes.

Perhaps. Perchance. Peut-être. Parfois 🤣

[Silly Cope Mode] Ada :v_trans: :v_pan:​

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 10:07:50

@pixellight If this wasn't opt-out, I wouldn't mind this existing as much. Here it seems like Mozilla has really misstepped on what is effectively a consent issue.

You just don't start giving away more information without explicit consent (opt-in), that's privacy 101.

Graham Downs

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 10:11:39

@pixellight Why would you want to deny sites the ability to see how their ads are performing without collecting data about you? That seems a bit spiteful, if you ask me. :P

Or maybe it's that they will always have that ability, but if you uncheck that box, it implies that they WILL be collecting data about you? :?

ra-φ

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 10:15:02

@pixellight Why would I disable something that provides an incentive for advertisers NOT to track me?

Jure Repinc :linux: :kde:

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 10:53:15

@pixellight That's why I switched to using , It is with all preserving features turned on by default
librewolf.net/

sotolf

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 11:29:44

@pixellight Thank you :) it's done, I hate these kind of opt out things, it's really not a great thing to do to the users :/

Regular Mouse 🐁

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 16:27:27

@pixellight Fun fact: If you look for this setting by using the Search bar in the Settings menu, it won’t appear⁠—you have to actively look for it in the Privacy & Security section.

plurb🏳️‍🌈

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 19:24:24

@pixellight This is supposed to help "protect" your personally identifiable information, so it could be a good thing. But who knows how trustworthy it is.
appsflyer.com/glossary/privacy

Jiri Rybar

Föderation EN Fr 12.07.2024 22:40:20

@pixellight @honzajavorek “PRIVACY-PRESERVING”

Diane

Föderation EN Sa 13.07.2024 00:20:16

@pixellight

Do we know if there's something similar in firefox mobile?