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Föderation EN Mi 30.04.2025 08:13:49

As of 27 May Meta will train their AI models with your data, unless you have opted-out. windowscentral.com/microsoft/m

➡️ Facebook: Settings & Privacy > Privacy Centre > Privacy Topics > AI at Meta > Submit an Objection Request
Direct link: facebook.com/help/contact/7128

➡️ Instagram: Settings > Privacy > Privacy Centre > Privacy Topics > AI at Meta > Submit an Objection Request
Direct link: help.instagram.com/contact/767

➡️ WhatsApp: whatsapp.com/legal > Data Subject Rights Form > How can I make an objection to the processing of my information?
Direct link: whatsapp.com/contact/forms/382

If the form asks you for clarification, fill in:

"The use of my data infringes on my rights as a (French/German/Dutch/etc.) resident and EU citizen. I do not consent to my data being used for AI training, development, improvement or a more personalised experience. I do not give consent for my data to be used for any other form of training, development, improvement or a more personalised experience in any Meta product or technology. I have the right to keep my data private as per the European GDPR law."
Source: petforums.co.uk/threads/import

Next step: Delete Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp ❌

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Föderation EN Mi 30.04.2025 08:38:08

@ppdelft If only the privacy authorities would do their job and actually enforce the , this would be unnecessary :blob_cry:
Best given current situation, object an delete Meta is indeed the best advice.

Föderation EN Mi 30.04.2025 09:17:51

@ppdelft

Not all companies are like this:
"At @purism isn’t a toggle buried deep within a settings menu; it’s the foundation of everything we build. Our devices—like the smartphone and laptop—run on free and software () , ensuring that users have full and over their data.

Unlike Meta, does not monetize personal information."

Read more, also about their Digital Bill of Rights, at:

puri.sm/posts/privacy-on-trial

Föderation EN Mi 30.04.2025 15:28:12

@ppdelft
The WhatsApp form asks for email and phone, i've done all i can to keep those separate for literal decades, and now the objection form to deny them my data will get them linked. I hate this...

Föderation EN Do 01.05.2025 10:22:04

@jherazob @ppdelft They already have your phonenumber, WA uses that as identifier for you and your contacts. For e-mail use a disposable e-mailadres. (they will send you followup questions to it, so make sure you can receive it)

Föderation EN Mi 30.04.2025 15:32:41

@ppdelft Not available in my region. Fuckers.

Föderation EN Do 01.05.2025 15:38:57

@ppdelft I received a very shady reply from WhatsApp, stating that my objection to their use of data for AI training is about MetaAI, not WhatsApp.

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Föderation EN Do 01.05.2025 16:29:29

@steko @ppdelft Wow, they make it really difficult to exercise your right of . This company has a totally wrong business model. I recommend to not use any of their services: , , , ,

Föderation EN Fr 02.05.2025 12:28:21

@janvlug @steko Just repeat the message and ask for confirmation of your objection:
"My message " *insert previous message*" is perfectly clear and is applicable to any Meta product or technology. Please confirm that you have properly registered my objection. If you fail to do so, I will file a complaint at my local GDPR authorities."

Föderation EN Fr 02.05.2025 12:46:58

@ppdelft @janvlug thanks, it's exactly what I had in mind but I'm more confident now. I was also thinking about adding this screenshot where it's perfectly clear that Meta AI is not optional and in fact it's integrated inside WhatsApp

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Föderation EN So 04.05.2025 14:39:01

@steko @janvlug The saga continues, a user received this response from Meta:

Hi,

Thanks for your message.

In order for us to review your objection, please reply to this email with the following information:

- What information processing you are objecting to. Your right to object applies where we rely on legitimate interest to process your information.
- How WhatsApp’s processing of this information impacts you (example: what rights and freedoms you believe are impacted by the processing and why)
- Any additional information you believe will help us review your objection (optional)

We may ask you for more information if your request is incomplete.

Thanks,
WhatsApp Privacy Operations

It seems that the tactic of Meta is to continue endlessly with silly follow questions until you give up.

@noybeu could you shine a light on how to object against data use by Meta for 'AI training, development, improvement or a more personalised experience.' so that they don't keep asking silly questions without complying?

Föderation EN Mo 05.05.2025 11:25:41

@ppdelft @steko @janvlug @noybeu

I'd ignore their questions and quote the relevant GDPR principles back at them

Föderation EN Mo 05.05.2025 11:33:41

@cmsdengl @steko @janvlug @noybeu The desirable outcomes of this discussion with Meta are :
1) get clear confirmation that they have registered your objection
2) get clear refusal to comply to GDPR so that you can file a complaint at the GDPR authorities
3) have back and forth discussion that will be interpreted by GDPR authorities as a case 2)

Ignore their questions and quote the relevant GDPR principles back at them might indeed result in case 3)

Föderation EN Fr 02.05.2025 16:33:50

@steko @ppdelft
Just received the same response, sounds to me like floating GDPR responsibilities, answered it restating what i said, let's wait and see

Föderation EN Do 01.05.2025 21:12:23

@ppdelft Not available in Mexico 🤬

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Föderation EN Fr 02.05.2025 09:25:50

@gerardo It's a right given by the GDPR, the EU privacy law. Some countries have similar privacy regulations, but many lack them :blobawkward:

Föderation EN Mo 05.05.2025 08:39:20

@ppdelft i was checking the WAlink for my mom, killed my own WAaccount a while ago. Interestingly, it is not possible to refuse cookies… That is obliged, isn’t it?

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Föderation EN Mo 05.05.2025 10:01:40

@heleenkuiper Short answer: Yes, if an organisation asks to place cookies, it should be equally easy to reject them as to accept. If not, that a breach of the GDPR.

Long answer: Exception to this is strictly necessary cookies, for this no permission is needed at all. It is then also not needed to have a cookie wall, but sometimes there is and then it can be legally okay to have a cookie wall that only has an OK button.

But in this case "inzicht in onze diensten" sounds like tracking that requires explicit and specific consent as described in GDPR.
The button "COOKIES BEHEREN" is misleading because you cannot control cookies there. Another demand for a valid cookie permissions is that it must be possible to withdraw consent as easy as it is given. (Cookie walls that have this possibility are a rare exception.)

Just referring to the browser settings is evil and illegal, it is not possible to give/withdraw specific permissions. You can only set 'reject all cookies', which breaks many websites, or 'reject third party cookies', which still has many tracking possibilities.

Great resource for cookie knowlegde: noyb.eu/en/project/cookie-bann

Föderation NL Mo 05.05.2025 11:00:23

@ppdelft can I put a complaint about this somewhere?

Föderation EN Mo 05.05.2025 09:47:47

@ppdelft are you sure meta will also use your WA data? Iculture.nl explicitly says meta doesn’t

Föderation EN Mo 05.05.2025 10:24:18

@heleenkuiper That is what Meta writes themselves about it: "In the EU, we will soon begin training our AI models on the interactions that people have with AI at Meta". source: (warning , links to Meta) about.fb.com/news/2025/04/maki )

But using WhatsApp and avoiding Meta AI is going to be very hard, see screenshot by @steko : scholar.social/@steko/11443783

It is true that the end-to-end encrypted message content will not be used for AI, for now, for as long as none of the participants touch an AI feature. But you can be sure that more and more dark patterns will be used to trick users into using the AI features.

So, the only real solution is to delete WhatsApp.

Föderation NL Mo 05.05.2025 10:58:31

@ppdelft @steko I deleted it a while ago. Shitty that many other people will have pictures with me in them or old apps in which I participated in their WA 🙁