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· Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:25:55

@j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes Gen Con needs at least 1 million sqft of walkable event space, with that predicted to grow again before their current contract is up. Vegas and Chicago are really the only places left in the US, but neither has hotel space that is adjacent and/or connected to support the attendees (gamers with large gear, mobility issues, cosplay). I'm sure Gen Con itself would love to hold it in Washington instead. Everyone seems to want it to move, but I'm not sure how without breaking it into smaller cons. (This debate comes up about every two weeks on social media. Nobody has the answer.)

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:27:31

@rickhunter @j4yc33 Its so surreal knowing I will never go to another gen con -_-

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:33:38

@hacks4pancakes @j4yc33 Really hoping we can find a way for it to be "for a long time" rather than "never". And I finally got to go to your seminar last year 😢

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:31:05

@rickhunter @hacks4pancakes

So, the Gaylord National Harbor and MGM Hotel would probably be a good sized "Make Do" situation, but the Baltimore Convention center is *bigger* than the Indiana Convention Center and is walkable to more hotel rooms.

Edit: Colorado Convention Center is also bigger.

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:36:46

@j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes Awesome! Maybe Gen Con will consider those when their current renewal ends in 2030.

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:08:17

@neoluddite @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes Events of this size make long-term plans. Since Gen Con uses the same stadium as the Indianapolis Colts, they have to reserve far in advance so the NFL can't take priority. (Though it was often hilarious when there were football games during Gen Con. Who are all those people cosplaying as football fans?)

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:09:00

@rickhunter @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes just rename it Vichy Con then

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:13:02

@j4yc33 @rickhunter @hacks4pancakes I mean, it sounds like they're about to have a sudden reduction in attendance, so the con is fucked either way. Might as well go down swinging for some sort of principle.

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:14:06

@neoluddite @rickhunter @hacks4pancakes I know there were/are discussions in the Battletech community that went pretty deep on it.

Like, Indiana isn't 50/50, that'd be Texas, but it might be 49.

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:18:00

@j4yc33 @neoluddite @hacks4pancakes There wasn't a big dropoff last year when the abortion ban was put in place, and I don't expect a whole lot more in terms of new laws in this year. But that's because I think Braun will hold back expecting changes to roll out at the federal level, in which case we're fucked no matter where we go.

Indianapolis itself is pretty liberal, but the supermajority in the state has a lot of power to keep Indy from doing much on its own.

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:27:56

@rickhunter @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes Ah yes, option 3 is that you find out that your fandom is full of cunts

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:33:08

@rickhunter @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes San Diego? (2.6M sq ft and already handles comicon)

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 20:39:09

@Rycaut @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes It would certainly be nicer weather!

Föderation EN Mi 15.01.2025 22:35:04

@rickhunter @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes Plus California and a town already used to an event that has as much (or more) cosplay etc. Personally I'd love it as getting to Indy from California takes a day and isn't fun (often needing to change planes), San Diego is a short, cheap, quick flight)

But the bigger issue with San Diego is that a lot of people drive to GenCon (bringing games/taking home purchases) so a coastal location is challenging.

Detroit might be worth looking at for that reason.

Föderation EN Do 16.01.2025 06:00:52

@rickhunter @j4yc33 @hacks4pancakes
There is no place in the US with more hotel capability than Las Vegas. It regularly hosts significantly larger conferences than Gen Con. The idea that only Indianapolis, which is at best a third-tier convention city, can host the event is frankly ludicrous.