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· Föderation EN Do 27.03.2025 20:21:14 @Lightfighter @Janeishly Usenet was not on the Internet then - not until it was bridged by InterNetNews in 1992 (after the Web). I remember Usenet discussions around 1987: "I've heard of this new thing called the Internet. What is it? Is it any good?" |
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Föderation EN Do 27.03.2025 20:25:17 @robinadams @Lightfighter I'm afraid I've got a very vague understanding of when the internet actually began as a thing, because I was using what I now *think* of as the internet in 1989 (it was actually JANET) to play MUD. I had another couple of years of that until I finished my MA, and then an 8-ish year gap. By the time I got back it was definitely the internet. |
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Föderation EN Do 27.03.2025 20:42:19 @Janeishly @Lightfighter Jan 1 1983 is usually the date named as the "birthday of the Internet", when ARPANET switched to using TCP/IP so it could share traffic with any other network using that protocol. Usenet started before then in 1980, spreading from BBS to BBS via dial-up users uploading and downloading the posts. The Web came later in 1989, using the Internet so you could click on a link in one document to jump to a document on a completely different machine. Before then to use the Internet, you had to know where the machine that had thing you wanted was, connect to it by FTP or Telnet, log in (the log in prompt would give you instructions, usually username "anonymous" and password your email address), read the "message of the day", and navigate through that machine's file system (this was how I first learned Unix commands). MUDs were big then. I spent a lot of time on MOOs (object-oriented MUDs where you could create your own items by coding their behaviour in an object-oriented language). Now get off my lawn you darn kids. |
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Föderation EN Do 27.03.2025 20:43:37 @robinadams @Lightfighter @Janeishly um… what? Usenet and uucp were gen1 internet capabilities. Perhaps we have different definitions of ‘internet’, but bangpath-era internet WAS internet. |
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Föderation EN Do 27.03.2025 21:05:03 @cascheranno @Lightfighter @Janeishly By Internet I mean the network that uses the Internet Protocol Suite and grew out of ARPANET. There were a few rival global networks in the 1980s, including the Internet, UUCPNET (which used bangpaths etc.), FidoNet and BITNET. The World Wide Web was the killer application that made the Internet much more popular than its rivals, most of which have died out. (Checked just now and happy that FidoNet still exists, but traffic on it is tiny compared to the Internet and compared to what it used to be.) |
