Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:21:02 In case you're using Firefox on mobile - so myself and like four others - disabling Firefox' new Facebook data collection feature is quite a bit harder than on desktop, but it can be done:
Done. This only works on Android, because Firefox on iOS is just a Safari skin. |
Föderation NL Di 16.07.2024 11:24:32 @thomholwerda does it also work for all 2 people who use firefox on ios
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Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:40:18 @thomholwerda i use firefox on mobile because i need ublock origin >_> so thank you |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:43:40 @eniko Yeah I use Firefox on Android for uBlock when I'm not at home (where we have a Pi-Hole to block all ads on our entire network), and because I use Firefox on desktop, and use the tab sharing feature a lot. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:23:40 @thomholwerda @eniko samesies, it's the tab sharing feature that keeps me on Firefox tbh. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:49:57 @dorian @thomholwerda @eniko so there are the 3 of you and I've just done it too so that's 100% of the FF android user base done now |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 18:25:49 @dorian |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:46:05 @thomholwerda @eniko I have my phone rooted and I use AdAway to block all ads. |
Föderation EN Do 18.07.2024 18:37:15 @eniko @thomholwerda I use Fennec, it's basically Firefox for Android but with the tracking and I think some other proprietary bits removed, if it helps you at all ๐ |
Föderation EN So 21.07.2024 12:50:11 @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda also using Fennec, quite pleased to discover my about:config already enabled and this 'private data' toggle completely absent |
Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 22:25:38 @prokyonid @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda I would recommend you to have a look at it again. I observed the same when I saw the post first, but I just rechecked and now it is there. Enabled. I think fennec just had some delay until it was distributed. |
Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 22:34:17 @jonasgraphie @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda I saw they pushed an update last night. Must have been sent through with that |
Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 23:04:15 @prokyonid @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda Yes, definitely. I just checked: The update from July 26 is to Version 128. This is the version introducing this "feature". |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:48:10 @thomholwerda FYI, the first setting is under "general.aboutConfig.enable" on Firefox for Android. So search for "aboutConfig" not "about:config". |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:58:51 @natarasee Whoops, totally right. Good catch, thank you! Fixed the post. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:17:17 @thomholwerda @natarasee ah, thanks very much for the clarification. I hadn't picked up that there were two separate toggles to check (my general one was already set to False). Now done ๐ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:03:22 @thomholwerda I can't even open chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml - it just assumes I meant to enter an https:// address and f's it up |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:20:07 @dtwx @thomholwerda If you paste it in, you have to manually add the prefix of `chrome://` again. At least in non-In Private Mode, that was necessary - it seemed to paste in fine in In Private Mode, though it... apparently kept those options around outside of In Private Mode based on checking in non-In Private Mode. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:51:56 @AT1ST @dtwx @thomholwerda the link doesn't go anywhere |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 23:21:11 @NationMeta @dtwx @thomholwerda Huh - on Android Firefox? Should look like it goes to here: (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 23:26:18 @AT1ST @dtwx @thomholwerda chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 23:41:44 @NationMeta @dtwx @thomholwerda Glad it worked out in the end - thanks for letting us know what caused the confusion! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:28:09 @dtwx @thomholwerda that happened to me too when I tried to copy and paste, but typing it in seems to work |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 21:32:50 @dtwx @thomholwerda Yep. I had to paste the adress, then write the chrome:// part at the beginning. It worked this way. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:13:56 @thomholwerda i use it! and i even bullied my dad into also doing that! also wth facebook?! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:19:14 @TudbuT @thomholwerda yeah not sure whatโs would be the link with Facebook? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:20:18 @melunaka @TudbuT It's developed in cooperation with Facebook. https://www.osnews.com/story/140247/i-told-you-so-mozilla-working-with-facebook-to-weaken-firefox-privacy-and-anti-tracking-features/ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:40:20 @thomholwerda @TudbuT Mozilla is really digging its own grave, isnโt it. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:55:29 @melunaka @thomholwerda @TudbuT Time to build ladybird browser |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:56:59 @Matheo_bis @melunaka @TudbuT Don't. Ladybird is run by a transphobe. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:28:02 @thomholwerda @melunaka @TudbuT Deam, why can't he have nice things? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:51:44 I'm rooting for Servo @servo |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:55:38 @Matheo_bis @thomholwerda @melunaka @TudbuT fork it |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:57:47 @Matheo_bis |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:47:41 @thomholwerda |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:18:38 @thomholwerda thanks! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:18:43 @thomholwerda Wow. Even on the supposedly highly privacy-conscious "Firefox Focus" that option was still set to True. |
Föderation EN Do 18.07.2024 14:59:18 THIS is what I needed to know. I wonder if we can ping the guy who builds those for ffupdater to have that switched OFF. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:41:44 @thomholwerda going to chrome: surprised me |
Föderation EN Do 18.07.2024 18:33:59 @edzob @thomholwerda same. is android Firefox a chrome reskin? |
Föderation EN Fr 19.07.2024 07:28:00 @joshg @edzob @thomholwerda no :) |
Föderation EN Fr 19.07.2024 22:53:19 @alex_pk @joshg @thomholwerda thanks! for the archive some links for this piece of history https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/overview/gecko.html https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome "The name comes from the graphical user interface frame, or "chrome", of web browsers." |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:46:18 @thomholwerda@exquisite.social bigger wtf is they hid about:config on mobile?? i remember just being able to go to it.. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:56:16 @thomholwerda thank you! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:59:18 @thomholwerda |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:51:08 @Lana @thomholwerda do you feel Fennec slower than FF? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:15:07 @Paul_Aguayo |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:47:52 @Lana @thomholwerda thanks for the info |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:05:56 @thomholwerda thank you so much ive just looked for it in the settings but couldn't find it so figured maybe they didn't implement it on phones. putting this opt out option out of sight is really a shame. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:52:06 @datafuzz @thomholwerda try to search for aboutConfig without the colon |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:22:49 @thomholwerda Thank you for the tip. (But it is just incredible that we have to go through all that just to disable something that should at least have been an opt-in, or shouldnโt have existed at all. ๐ฌ) |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:18:58 @jor it's also weird since on desktop it just has a toggle in settings. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:32:07 Ice raven is amazing on Android |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:47:40 @thomholwerda One of the others thanks you sir! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:50:37 Thankyou! That's not an easy stone to turn. (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:50:39 @thomholwerda |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:51:17 @thomholwerda Thank you! |
Föderation · Di 16.07.2024 13:51:20 @thomholwerda@exquisite.social thank you! I've been trying to figure out how to do it and assumed it just hasn't made it to mobile yet. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:57:06 Heh, a lot of us started using only Firefox somewhere along the way. Thank you! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:58:06 @angelastella Same! Any other browser is just wrong for my usage pattern. I'm worried about the future of Firefox. ๐ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:03:00 Me too. I'm waiting for some viable third option to mature. (Contributing code to a modern browser it's way above my pay grade.) |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:57:41 @thomholwerda as another one of the few, thanks |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:00:41 @thomholwerda as one of the other 4. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:11:01 @thomholwerda thanks! |
Föderation · Di 16.07.2024 14:15:28 @thomholwerda@exquisite.social thanks!!! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:16:28 @thomholwerda So this is what the Mozilla people mean when they say "it's fine, it's opt-out!" ... o_0 |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:23:17 @thomholwerda You also can swing to Mull (or other nice Firefox fork) ๐ |
Föderation GL Di 16.07.2024 14:25:37 @thomholwerda and, just asking to anyone, what about duck duck mobile browser? Does it worth it? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:26:11 @thomholwerda you can also just jump straight to the private attribution option and turn it off in the chrome:// url |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:26:34 Is this relevant if i dont use facebook? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 19:05:28 @BratschCbra @thomholwerda Yes. Everything ad tech is relevant. Always. https://interaktiv.br.de/ausspioniert-mit-standortdaten/en/index.html |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 19:36:54 Danke |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:42:36 @thomholwerda is brave good these days? |
Föderation · Do 18.07.2024 12:14:39 @45h@mastodon.social @thomholwerda@exquisite.social imo brave is worse, its still chromium which defeats the purpose of using a different browser (at least from the pov of using dif rendering/js engines), and the company behind it is run by a guy that was kicked out of mozilla for being homophobic, and then the crypto shit just puts me off, even if you can disable it |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:44:02 @thomholwerda Done. But pretty shit that `false` is not the default. Really unimpressed, @mozilla Privacy intrusion by stealth: the moral equivalent of peeking through people's bathroom windows. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 18:01:46 @simon_brooke @thomholwerda @mozilla But donโt worry, weโre the ones peeking through your bathroom window, and we will only make sketches of what we see in our sketchbook. We will write down your name or address on the opposite page, so everything will be anonymous unless someone steals the book. Yeah, and this will not make any of the people across the street with binoculars go away. We will ask them nicely to buy copies from our sketchbook, though. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:48:34 @thomholwerda thank you so much |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:51:18 @thomholwerda and in that case there is an option in Advanced for Safari to opt out (if it applied) |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:04:23 @thomholwerda not an issue on Fennec F-Droid! but thanks for sharing, I know of people who will need itโฆ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:15:37 @thomholwerda Edit: Answering myself, it IS on Firefox Focus, the supposedly super-private edition of Firefox, for fuck's sakes... ๐คฆ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:20:02 @thomholwerda Can you link us to directions on doing it on desktop Firefox? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:22:12 @thomholwerda Also, I don't understand - Chrome? Why is the direction to enter "chrome" in a browser that isn't Chrome? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:24:53 The term "chrome" historically refers to the UI elements of the browser itself, i.e. everything other than the websites it displays. It's been in use since long before Google started making a browser and called it Chrome, but it's been confusing people since then. See the second bullet point under "Computing" in this article: |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:39:14 @guenther @thomholwerda Thanks! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:23:01 @thomholwerda couldn't get the about:config to work. Until I found that it's only available in Firefox Beta, not in the official released version: https://droidwin.com/cannot-access-aboutconfig-in-firefox-android-fixed/ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 16:27:03 @SchepBernard @thomholwerda if you follow OP's steps you can enable about:config in Firefox (not beta nor nightly) |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:23:33 @thomholwerda Or just use Mull.
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Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:26:57 @thomholwerda thank you. Iโm looking for a new browser on iOS, any suggestions? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:26:59 @thomholwerda thank you! |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:34:30 @thomholwerda I can't open the config file. Bye Firefox. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:35:17 @thomholwerda this is awful i think, i feel โhadโ |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:35:40 @thomholwerda holy hell thank you for showing how to enable about:config all on it's own! I've wanted that for years now. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:41:41 @thomholwerda Thank you! It worked (was necessary) for Firefox Klar as well. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:42:32 @thomholwerda interesting. I would've thought that that wasn't active or that it didn't even exist! Thanks for the tip. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:44:14 @thomholwerda wait what? its there too? and so hidden?!
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Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:48:42 @thomholwerda another possibility: use the Firefox-beta app, which has about:config enabled by default |
Föderation · Di 16.07.2024 15:49:24 @thomholwerda@exquisite.social |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:51:00 @thomholwerda |
Föderation · Di 16.07.2024 15:56:03 @yacc143@mastodon.social @thomholwerda@exquisite.social this time, the spyware is in the browser itself: https://mastodon.social/@mcc/112775362045378963 |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:54:34 @thomholwerda I've just found that the submission option is also enabled on the desktop. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:55:54 @thomholwerda that is only a temporary solution. The long term solution is: i gave this exact same advice to how to deactivate it on the desktop but instead recommending Librewolf |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:58:39 @thomholwerda Thanks! I, sigh, thought it was too good to be true to assume it was just part of the other visible ad related toggle in preferences. |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 16:05:17 Thank you. I was wondering where they stashed the fiddly settings on mobile. Bookmarking |
Föderation DE Di 16.07.2024 16:05:27 @thomholwerda Facebook? |
Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 16:09:42 @thomholwerda |