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Thom, HP-UXâ„¢ evangelist

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:21:02

In case you're using Firefox on mobile - so myself and like four others - disabling Firefox' new Facebook data collection feature is quite a bit harder than on desktop, but it can be done:

  1. Go to chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml
  2. Use the search field to find the entry for aboutConfig and enable it
  3. Go to about:config
  4. Search for dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled and set it to false

Done. This only works on Android, because Firefox on iOS is just a Safari skin.

He Who Ruins The Fun :celeste_hearts_mlm:

Föderation NL Di 16.07.2024 11:24:32

@thomholwerda does it also work for all 2 people who use firefox on ios

Eniko Fox

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:40:18

@thomholwerda i use firefox on mobile because i need ublock origin >_> so thank you

Thom, HP-UXâ„¢ evangelist

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:43:40

@eniko Yeah I use Firefox on Android for uBlock when I'm not at home (where we have a Pi-Hole to block all ads on our entire network), and because I use Firefox on desktop, and use the tab sharing feature a lot.

baby fresh snugs

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:23:40

@thomholwerda @eniko samesies, it's the tab sharing feature that keeps me on Firefox tbh.

Liam Ward

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:49:57

@dorian @thomholwerda @eniko so there are the 3 of you and I've just done it too so that's 100% of the FF android user base done now

Erik

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 18:25:49

@dorian
Btw, firefox forks (at least Mull and Librewolf) can also connect to your Firefox account and use it for sharing between devices.

Paul :archlinux: ๐Ÿง

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:46:05

@thomholwerda @eniko I have my phone rooted and I use AdAway to block all ads.
The rest of my family uses AdGuard DNSs, have tried any of these?

hazelnot :yell:

Föderation EN Do 18.07.2024 18:37:15

@eniko @thomholwerda I use Fennec, it's basically Firefox for Android but with the tracking and I think some other proprietary bits removed, if it helps you at all ๐Ÿ˜…

prokyonid

Föderation EN So 21.07.2024 12:50:11

@hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda also using Fennec, quite pleased to discover my about:config already enabled and this 'private data' toggle completely absent

j

Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 22:25:38

@prokyonid @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda

I would recommend you to have a look at it again. I observed the same when I saw the post first, but I just rechecked and now it is there. Enabled.

I think fennec just had some delay until it was distributed.

prokyonid

Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 22:34:17

@jonasgraphie @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda I saw they pushed an update last night. Must have been sent through with that

j

Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 23:04:15

@prokyonid @hazelnot @eniko @thomholwerda

Yes, definitely. I just checked: The update from July 26 is to Version 128. This is the version introducing this "feature".

Natasha

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:48:10

@thomholwerda FYI, the first setting is under "general.aboutConfig.enable" on Firefox for Android. So search for "aboutConfig" not "about:config".

Thom, HP-UXâ„¢ evangelist

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 11:58:51

@natarasee Whoops, totally right. Good catch, thank you! Fixed the post.

kaybeeque

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:17:17

@thomholwerda @natarasee ah, thanks very much for the clarification. I hadn't picked up that there were two separate toggles to check (my general one was already set to False).

Now done ๐Ÿ‘

Dibs

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:03:22

@thomholwerda I can't even open chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml - it just assumes I meant to enter an https:// address and f's it up

Alexander The 1st

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:20:07

@dtwx @thomholwerda If you paste it in, you have to manually add the prefix of `chrome://` again.

At least in non-In Private Mode, that was necessary - it seemed to paste in fine in In Private Mode, though it... apparently kept those options around outside of In Private Mode based on checking in non-In Private Mode.

Bryce

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:51:56

@AT1ST @dtwx @thomholwerda the link doesn't go anywhere

Alexander The 1st

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 23:21:11

@NationMeta @dtwx @thomholwerda Huh - on Android Firefox?

Should look like it goes to here:

The landing page of [ chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml ] in Android Firefox.

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Bryce

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 23:26:18

@AT1ST @dtwx @thomholwerda
OP has extra letters at the end of the URL where there should be a space. I copied all of it without noticing. ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks for getting back to us.

chrome://geckoview/content/config.xhtml

Alexander The 1st

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 23:41:44

@NationMeta @dtwx @thomholwerda Glad it worked out in the end - thanks for letting us know what caused the confusion!

John Morahan

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:28:09

@dtwx @thomholwerda that happened to me too when I tried to copy and paste, but typing it in seems to work

Wildduck

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 21:32:50

@dtwx @thomholwerda Yep. I had to paste the adress, then write the chrome:// part at the beginning. It worked this way.

TudbuT

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:13:56

@thomholwerda i use it! and i even bullied my dad into also doing that!

also wth facebook?!

gobelaine dégondé

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:19:14

@TudbuT @thomholwerda yeah not sure whatโ€™s would be the link with Facebook?

gobelaine dégondé

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:40:20

@thomholwerda @TudbuT Mozilla is really digging its own grave, isnโ€™t it.

Matheo_bis

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:55:29

@melunaka @thomholwerda @TudbuT Time to build ladybird browser

Thom, HP-UXâ„¢ evangelist

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:56:59

@Matheo_bis @melunaka @TudbuT Don't. Ladybird is run by a transphobe.

Matheo_bis

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:28:02

@thomholwerda @melunaka @TudbuT Deam, why can't he have nice things?

Tunguska

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:51:44

@Matheo_bis

I'm rooting for Servo @servo
myself. It's a ways from an end-user-ready browser at this point, but looks to be getting lots of active development, under the stewardship of The Linux Foundation, and I haven't come across any indication of gross toxicity among the project leadership.

@thomholwerda @melunaka @TudbuT

chocobo13ζ

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:47:41

@thomholwerda
I guess with the news that Switzerland will be funding open source tools for stuff their government employees use, we may be seeing a new browser coming from a team mostly based there, if we are lucky. Depends on whether Firefox or Chromium are considered "good enough" for their purposes
@melunaka @TudbuT

Flippin' 'eck, Tucker!

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:18:43

@thomholwerda Wow. Even on the supposedly highly privacy-conscious "Firefox Focus" that option was still set to True.

Lohikäärme 32 :amiga:

Föderation EN Do 18.07.2024 14:59:18

@losttourist @thomholwerda

THIS is what I needed to know.

I wonder if we can ping the guy who builds those for ffupdater to have that switched OFF.

edzob

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:41:44

@thomholwerda going to chrome: surprised me

josh g.

Föderation EN Do 18.07.2024 18:33:59

@edzob @thomholwerda same. is android Firefox a chrome reskin?

alex_pk

Föderation EN Fr 19.07.2024 07:28:00

@joshg @edzob @thomholwerda no :)
Before chrome was even born, Mozilla called the browser's interface "chrome" to distinguish it from the engine (gecko).
I think that's where Google took the name when they built their "chrome" around khtml.

edzob

Föderation EN Fr 19.07.2024 22:53:19

@alex_pk @joshg @thomholwerda thanks!
never knew that. today I learned ๐Ÿ˜Š

for the archive some links for this piece of history

firefox-source-docs.mozilla.or

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goog "The name comes from the graphical user interface frame, or "chrome", of web browsers."

sohpia

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:46:18

@thomholwerda@exquisite.social bigger wtf is they hid about:config on mobile?? i remember just being able to go to it..

Renarde

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 12:59:18

@thomholwerda
Doesn't seems to exist on Fennec-fdroid, hope the maintainer set it to false when they rebase on Firefox.

Paul :archlinux: ๐Ÿง

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:51:08

@Lana @thomholwerda do you feel Fennec slower than FF?
Can you use add-ons like Ublock?

Renarde

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:15:07

@Paul_Aguayo
@thomholwerda
I can use ublock and don't feel load speed differences.

Paul :archlinux: ๐Ÿง

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:47:52

@Lana @thomholwerda thanks for the info

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Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:05:56

@thomholwerda thank you so much ive just looked for it in the settings but couldn't find it so figured maybe they didn't implement it on phones. putting this opt out option out of sight is really a shame.

Paul :archlinux: ๐Ÿง

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:52:06

@datafuzz @thomholwerda try to search for aboutConfig without the colon

Jor โ˜๏ธ๐Ÿ˜

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:22:49

@thomholwerda Thank you for the tip.

(But it is just incredible that we have to go through all that just to disable something that should at least have been an opt-in, or shouldnโ€™t have existed at all. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ)

draconicrose

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:18:58

@jor it's also weird since on desktop it just has a toggle in settings.

The Young Tinkerer

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:32:07

Ice raven is amazing on Android

qrazi

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:47:40

@thomholwerda One of the others thanks you sir!

Ewen Bell ๐Ÿ“ท

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:50:37

@thomholwerda

Thankyou! That's not an easy stone to turn.

Firefox on Android

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Dave Mac Farlane

Föderation · Di 16.07.2024 13:51:20

@thomholwerda@exquisite.social thank you! I've been trying to figure out how to do it and assumed it just hasn't made it to mobile yet.

Ángela Stella Matutina

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:57:06

@thomholwerda

Heh, a lot of us started using only Firefox somewhere along the way. Thank you!

Thom, HP-UXâ„¢ evangelist

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:58:06

@angelastella Same! Any other browser is just wrong for my usage pattern. I'm worried about the future of Firefox. ๐Ÿ˜

Ángela Stella Matutina

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:03:00

@thomholwerda

Me too. I'm waiting for some viable third option to mature. (Contributing code to a modern browser it's way above my pay grade.)

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 13:57:41

@thomholwerda as another one of the few, thanks

Number Witch aka Tali

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:00:41

@thomholwerda as one of the other 4.
Thank you!

StreetDogg

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:16:28

@thomholwerda So this is what the Mozilla people mean when they say "it's fine, it's opt-out!" ... o_0

o ifrit

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:23:17

@thomholwerda You also can swing to Mull (or other nice Firefox fork) ๐Ÿ˜œ
@hipolito

O/A Randomhose

Föderation GL Di 16.07.2024 14:25:37

@thomholwerda and, just asking to anyone, what about duck duck mobile browser? Does it worth it?

Instance.new("Nano", workspace)

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:26:11

@thomholwerda you can also just jump straight to the private attribution option and turn it off in the chrome:// url

Christian Bratsch

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:26:34

@thomholwerda

Is this relevant if i dont use facebook?

Ash

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:42:36

@thomholwerda is brave good these days?

KLBR-40796C19

Föderation · Do 18.07.2024 12:14:39

@45h@mastodon.social @thomholwerda@exquisite.social imo brave is worse, its still chromium which defeats the purpose of using a different browser (at least from the pov of using dif rendering/js engines), and the company behind it is run by a guy that was kicked out of mozilla for being homophobic, and then the crypto shit just puts me off, even if you can disable it

Simon Brooke

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:44:02

@thomholwerda Done. But pretty shit that `false` is not the default. Really unimpressed, @mozilla

Privacy intrusion by stealth: the moral equivalent of peeking through people's bathroom windows.

Magnus Ahltorp

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 18:01:46

@simon_brooke @thomholwerda @mozilla But donโ€™t worry, weโ€™re the ones peeking through your bathroom window, and we will only make sketches of what we see in our sketchbook. We will write down your name or address on the opposite page, so everything will be anonymous unless someone steals the book.

Yeah, and this will not make any of the people across the street with binoculars go away. We will ask them nicely to buy copies from our sketchbook, though.

Clot

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:48:34

@thomholwerda thank you so much

Hubert Figuière

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 14:51:18

@thomholwerda and in that case there is an option in Advanced for Safari to opt out (if it applied)

Xerz ๐Ÿ’—

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:04:23

@thomholwerda not an issue on Fennec F-Droid! but thanks for sharing, I know of people who will need itโ€ฆ

Jaime Herazo

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:15:37

@thomholwerda
Do we know if this shit is in Firefox Focus?

Edit: Answering myself, it IS on Firefox Focus, the supposedly super-private edition of Firefox, for fuck's sakes... ๐Ÿคฆ

Condalmo.

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:20:02

@thomholwerda Can you link us to directions on doing it on desktop Firefox?

Condalmo.

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:22:12

@thomholwerda Also, I don't understand - Chrome? Why is the direction to enter "chrome" in a browser that isn't Chrome?

guenther

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 17:24:53

@condalmo

The term "chrome" historically refers to the UI elements of the browser itself, i.e. everything other than the websites it displays. It's been in use since long before Google started making a browser and called it Chrome, but it's been confusing people since then.

See the second bullet point under "Computing" in this article:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome

@thomholwerda

Bernard

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:23:01

@thomholwerda couldn't get the about:config to work. Until I found that it's only available in Firefox Beta, not in the official released version: droidwin.com/cannot-access-abo

JProl ๐ŸŒ๐ŸŽถ๐Ÿ’พ๐Ÿ†“๐Ÿฆ

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 16:27:03

@SchepBernard @thomholwerda if you follow OP's steps you can enable about:config in Firefox (not beta nor nightly)

Deus

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:23:33

@thomholwerda Or just use Mull.

This is a privacy oriented and deblobbed web browser based on Mozilla technology. It enables many features upstreamed by the Tor Uplift project using preferences from the arkenfox-user.js project. It is recommended to install 'uBlock Origin'.

Arlen Moller

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:26:57

@thomholwerda thank you. Iโ€™m looking for a new browser on iOS, any suggestions?

AE4WX

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:34:30

@thomholwerda I can't open the config file. Bye Firefox.

Steven P. Sanderson II, MPH

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:35:17

@thomholwerda this is awful i think, i feel โ€œhadโ€

draeath

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:35:40

@thomholwerda holy hell thank you for showing how to enable about:config all on it's own!

I've wanted that for years now.

flw

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:41:41

@thomholwerda Thank you! It worked (was necessary) for Firefox Klar as well.

Paul :archlinux: ๐Ÿง

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:42:32

@thomholwerda interesting. I would've thought that that wasn't active or that it didn't even exist!

Thanks for the tip.

rick

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:44:14

@thomholwerda wait what? its there too? and so hidden?!

mccraigmccraig

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:48:42

@thomholwerda another possibility: use the Firefox-beta app, which has about:config enabled by default

Claire :verifiedbi::verifiedtrans:

Föderation · Di 16.07.2024 15:49:24

@thomholwerda@exquisite.social
1. i'm glad that you can use about:config on stable
2. why in the fuck is the method to enable about:config so obscure?

Andreas K

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:51:00

@thomholwerda
Considering that my malware detector notifies me about dangerous links when I visit many news sites without an ad blocker, the solution is simpler. Adblock.

Paul :archlinux: ๐Ÿง

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:54:34

@thomholwerda I've just found that the submission option is also enabled on the desktop.
Damn!

buddhaha

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:55:54

@thomholwerda that is only a temporary solution. The long term solution is:
1. Uninstall Firefox
2. Download & install Mull or Fennec F-Droid
3. ?
4. Profit

i gave this exact same advice to how to deactivate it on the desktop but instead recommending Librewolf

Tom Rini

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 15:58:39

@thomholwerda Thanks! I, sigh, thought it was too good to be true to assume it was just part of the other visible ad related toggle in preferences.

Pseudo Nym

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 16:05:17

@thomholwerda

Thank you.

I was wondering where they stashed the fiddly settings on mobile. Bookmarking

gz

Föderation EN Di 16.07.2024 16:09:42

@thomholwerda
While this is useful - thank you - it's a bit confusing as words run into each other, making the instructions unclear.