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· Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 16:56:48 I think that's made worse by our education systems. If you get a CS degree or an MBA, you can expect to jump into a wide variety of jobs with no industry-specific training or experience. 3/ |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 16:58:44 That's something I've benefited hugely from as a techie. I've gotten to work in so many different industries: education, finance, publishing, government, non-profits, and more. It has been a huge joy to dive in and learn about another slice of the world. Another set of people and their industry-specific language and culture. 4/ |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 17:03:05 But I think it's very easy for people with both CS and MBA degrees to start out thinking a broadly applicable skill means they don't have to learn anything. When in my experience, it's the opposite: if you want to be truly effective, you have to dig in and get up to speed pronto. And you'll have to develop a lot of respect for people who know the domain, and for the complexities they've taken years to understand. 5/ |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 17:05:09 But what if you don't care about being truly effective? What if you're goal is quick nominal wins or self aggrandizement or just extracting a bunch of cash and moving on? In that case, arrogance and ignorance aren't problems, they're tools. |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 17:09:12 So what I am seeing in DOGE is the confluence of two kinds of aggressive ignorance. It's a bunch of mouthy white dudes who are used to jumping in, performing genius, and fucking with things they don't understand. Things they won't ever understand. And those dudes, having never experienced the sting of consequences, can even conceive that there might be a problem. 7/ |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 17:13:02 It could be otherwise, of course. I'm reminded of the Ritual of the Calling of the Engineer. In response to a fatal bridge collapse, a Canadian engineering professor created a ceremony to remind graduating engineers that they had a duty to society: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_of_the_Calling_of_an_Engineer 8/ |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 17:17:34 But there's nothing like that for most software developers. And from what I here of business schools, it's almost the opposite: a long indoctrination in the focus on status and profit. Plus, of course, ensuing immersion for both in a business culture that either ignores or actively avoids ("no politics!") a sense of responsibility to other people. 9/ |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 17:23:52 If we survive the next 4 years, I hope we'll have finally burned out our collective admiration for arrogant, abusive assholes. No matter how adept they are at performing brilliance and promising miracles. I hope we'll turn instead to supporting people who have track records of being careful. Of skillfully maintaining the quietly valuable. Of assiduous, thoughtful repair. Because we're sure as fuck going to need it. 10/10 |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 18:01:56 @williampietri |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 18:20:44 @stargazersmith Could be! My experience with government employees is that there's a real culture of public service. I think it also helps that the firmer structures and slower cycles also make it harder to escape consequences. Or maybe your mom just raised you right! |
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Föderation EN Fr 28.02.2025 18:56:04 @williampietri |
