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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:23:54 The rollback of major DEI programs in FAANG companies should be a reminder that your company is not your friend and you need a union to protect your rights. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:25:53 @Ashedryden Remember: #AllGAFAMsAreEvil!
#AllGafamsAreBad #GAFAM|s #Pinkwashing #LateStageCapitalism #USpol |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:27:23 @Ashedryden What's FAANG again? Facebook Amazon Apple N? Google? |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:35:08 @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden N is Netflix. I recently had to look it up and was somewhat surprised they were considered in the same league. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:36:44 @dgodon @Ashedryden oh. Thank you! |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:51:25 @dgodon @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden Netflix streaming was one of the first (and might still be the only?) product to really successfully turn AWS cycles into profit. They spend a lot of money and engineering trying to repeat that success. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 23:30:45 @dgodon @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden Where's Microsoft? They're arguably bigger than Netflix. Not saying any of those companies are good though. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 23:42:11 @cameronbosch @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden apparently, the revised acronym is the cringy MAMAA |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 23:42:46 @dgodon @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden MAMAA, I hate these companies! 😂 |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 23:43:11 @cameronbosch @dgodon @Ashedryden Maybe M$ still keeps their DEI programs running .... |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:36:01 @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden Netflix; though since Facebook changed the name, my favorite acronym is MANGA |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 21:19:32 @SnorriSturluson NVIDIA maybe? @Ashedryden |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 21:32:19 @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden Netflix |
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Föderation · Fr 10.01.2025 21:38:00 @SnorriSturluson @Ashedryden netflix i think |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:30:58 @Ashedryden They only did it because they were told to. If nobody keeps telling them to, they won't. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 20:49:23 @Ashedryden I agree, a megacorp is no one's friend. However, my experience with unions hasn't been pleasant either. Sadly, the only one who is truly going to look out for you is you. All organizations are all out for themselves, unions included. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 21:20:22 @AjayCyanide I feel you, but you can influence a union WAAAAAY more easily than you can influence a company. Like, shit is still shit, but better is always better, ne? |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 21:48:17 @MxVerda @Ashedryden Not saying you're necessarily wrong - either could be possible. Depends what your role is in the organization (regardless company or union) and how receptive they are to change. I've seen unions that do almost nothing except collect union dues, and aid and abet mediocrity. The real problem is that our lawmakers should do their jobs and legislate in favor of their constituents instead of their spineless do-nothing approach. Don't need unions if the law is on your side. |
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Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 00:03:34 hmm. I'll need to ponder that. I think that, were law to be equally fair and redistributive for every single individual in its jurisdiction, then unions would certainly be less immediately useful in comparison. But on top of that, the point of a union is not just to litigate or bolster employees in disputes. Ideal af, but no reason not to push for it, and far, far more likely to work with a union than an employer. At the VERY least, even a shitty union has a reason and method for different staff to contact each other. Idk, someone else can probably clarify if I fucked my words here |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 21:13:09 In truth, the "DEI" programs at most tech companies were not much more than PR window dressing. I don't know anyone who worked at Meta so I can't say for certain, but I suspect that in practice, Zuck isn't rolling back very much that actually existed except PR posturing. This is still another "mask off" moment for anyone not paying attention. Every big tech company and CEO wanted Trump back and worked diligently to ensure that happened. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 21:32:38 @SaftyKuma @Ashedryden it was actually a pretty big part of recruitment strategy, and took a high position in training for interviewing. Things are going to feel very different after this week. Feels like a quiet RIF |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 22:10:13 Do you have direct experience? My previous employer touted "DEI" but that amounted to an anti-discrimination video and some virtue signaling on social media. (My current employer doesn't seem to have even bothered.) |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 22:17:07 @SaftyKuma @Ashedryden i work at meta. Just got direction about interviewing with standard corporate speak, a link to talking points if candidates ask about these changes, and option to take yourself out of the interviewers pool of you feel you can't right now, and an expectation that some candidates may be removing themselves from consideration so we need to be flexible. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 23:03:37 @ATLeagle @SaftyKuma @Ashedryden and yes… this does sound like the next round in shadow layoffs after rto. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 23:02:54 @SaftyKuma @Ashedryden There's a lot of truth to this. All corporate DEI and ERG initiatives that reported up to HR were *never* going to affect systemic and measurable changes that would expose the company to direct legal or financial liability. What IC employees need is a union and collective bargaining. |
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Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 01:35:19 Sounds like Meta had a much more robust DEI initiative than I initially assumed and have experienced myself, so my initial thought that it was mostly PR window dressing at was wrong. Which of course makes it all worse that Zuck is willing to toss it all out at the behest of a wannabe dictator. |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 22:15:13 @Ashedryden |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 22:42:31 @Ashedryden most our companies hate us |
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Föderation EN Fr 10.01.2025 22:42:43 @Ashedryden The rollback of DEI at Facebook doesn't mean that every major tech company is rolling back DEI. I have heard no recent changes in DEI among FAANG other than Facebook I can only specifically speak to Netflix maintaining our meaningful investment in diversity, inclusion, and belonging. It's not perfect, Netflix could do better (especially in content choices), but DEI remains a priority for Netflix as a company. As a manager at Netflix, my reporting chain supports me in actively improving our inclusion practices, setting high expectations for inclusive behavior, and striving towards equitable hiring and promotion and compensation (and equitable access to opportunities), in order to maintain and build a diverse workforce. I'm not alone in this: Netflix security has a dedicated inclusion strategy director whom we work with to improve our practices, address issues, and hold regular discussions to develop cultural competency and build understanding of experiences so we can grow a more inclusive work environment. There remain real and concerning problems at Netflix and at other tech companies, but there are also many people who work to improve at least some parts of these companies. It's important to call out the gaps and the companies like Facebook that are making harmful changes, but take care not to lump companies together when one is doing something particularly bad. |
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Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 00:02:19 @Ashedryden Serious question: why are there no unions (that i’m aware of) for Software Developers or other folks in Tech/IT? |
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Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 00:39:26 @Ashedryden “...is not your friend.” Full. Stop. |
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Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 01:04:01 @Ashedryden a-frcking-men |
