@dandylyons @Em0nM4stodon All things in life have more nuance than just a single black and white answer, yes. There are character (and time/patience) limits, so no I don't launch into a full page when responding to posts.

But what you're describing now refers to deployed software/hardware vulnerabilities. Yeah, that will usually get disclosed because it has to. But aren't we talking about things such as internal company databases? They generally don't have to disclose such things at all and, in fact, I've seen them get punished by people for doing so. (Target telling people that the company that processed cards getting hacked being a great example. None of the other companies affected during that period said a single word...)

If Apple gets hacked, they're not going to tell us.

@wesdym @dandylyons @Em0nM4stodon This is a very good point in regards to deployed hardware/software, but what I'm really referring to here are the companies themselves. Eg their databases and records and such. People give so much information to these companies and just assume it's safe. I wouldn't be shocked if Apple's databases even could have things like SSNs and such in there.

Even assuming companies like these do every single thing within their power to protect this stuff the absolute best they possibly can, all it takes is one hack/leak for some serious personal info to get out there.

Besides even Apple is flirting with "AI" stuff now and we all know how companies get regarding our private info the instant LLM training gets involved.

@oscarfalcon Totally fair. Maybe '"Smart" Listening Devices' (emphasis on the quoted smart) makes more sense then?