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Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 22:05:32

You don't need to use weird spellings or algospeak for any topics on the Fediverse ("unalived", "seggs" etc). There is no automated moderation or algorithm on here, moderation happens entirely through human beings and posts are shown in chronological order.

In fact it's better that you use the correct spellings for difficult topics so that people with genuine traumas related to them can filter them more easily.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 22:17:40

@FediTips And starts tomorrow. So great to have audio in the mix. But definitely understand the topic you’re posting.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 01:14:53

@audiomo

Hey, sorry, did you want a shoutout for AudioMo?

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 08:06:02

@FediTips Oooh hey there. That would be so cool 😎

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 22:29:51

@FediTips I saw an article last year lamenting that "the young people! they're so delicate! they can't say "dead," so they say "unalive"?!" And like, five minutes of research would tell you why, you dolt. Really seemed like it was just a big lie.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 23:45:25

@OrionKidder

Yeah, the article totally misunderstands the situation if that's what they think is going on.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 22:34:00

@FediTips
I find it somewhat disrespectful when people try to outwit other users' filters by mis-spelling common topics.
People filter things for good reason and its not up to anyone else to determine what someone else should be seeing.
Also, good use of hashtags (accurate, descriptive, but not too many) is really valuable as it allows both follows and blocks so people can curate their timelines properly.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 23:42:33

@MostlyTato

It's a good point but I don't think most people are doing it to fool human filters?

I think they've just picked up these habits from commercial platforms that use automated moderation that suppresses anything mentioning specific words.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 23:51:59

@FediTips
Maybe. Habits they don't need here though, especially when they do indeed fool human filters.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 03:49:26

@FediTips @MostlyTato This, 100%. I was fairly active on Twitter before it sold out, and you *had* to twist your words like that if you didn't want their algorithms limiting your reach, suspending you, or outright banning you. Basically all of the popular commercial platforms are like this nowadays. And once you get used to typing like that it can be hard to break the habit.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 23:21:12

@FediTips I honestly didn't even know that was a thing. Which means I'm (a) old and (b) spending the majority of my social media time on the Fediverse and I'm not unhappy about either of those things 😁

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 23:31:36

@FediTips @operationpuppet There are plenty of words / things you cant say / show on youtube.

Föderation EN Sa 31.05.2025 23:44:39

@abeorch @operationpuppet

Yeah, lots of YouTube videos weirdly fade out the sound or distort it if certain words ("murder", "drugs" etc) are used. They are trying to avoid being demoted by YouTube's algorithm.

Same goes for Instagram, Tiktok, Facebook etc etc.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 01:18:51

@FediTips considering "seggs" as a filter evasion always makes me pause for a moment since I was frequenting circles that sometimes replaces hard consonants with soft ones because it sounded funny.
For example "Gadse" instead of "Katze" (german for "cat") and I kinda took it for a much more widespread phenomenon than it probably was.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 01:32:26

@Primo

Ah yeah I didn't mean the weird spellings for fun πŸ™‚ Just the ones on serious posts that want to avoid being suppressed.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 02:31:54

@FediTips agreeeeee, I mean agreed.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 03:10:53

@FediTips language constantly evolves.
100 years from now how we spoke in the 19th and 20th centuries will be viewed as quaint and antiquated.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 03:17:41

@CatDragon

Slang does constantly change, definitely! πŸ™‚

The post was meant to be about something a bit different through? It's not about slang but phrases that people don't really want to use, but feel forced to use just to avoid being suppressed by automated moderation.

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 11:57:31

@FediTips

I usually add some common typos to my filters when I can.
Essentially its just a word blacklist

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 15:02:47

@FediTips also, if you want to use a nickname in your toot, remember to tag their names at the end so your mutuals can filter them out (i.e. some of my mutuals muted "Taylor Swift", so if I make a toot calling her Tay, Taytay or whatever, I tag her name properly at the end)

Föderation EN So 01.06.2025 15:16:11

@FediTips it does stop creepybros searching for those keywords, although there's a lot fewer bots after you if you say "bitcoin cryptocurrency" here. let's see...

Föderation EN Mo 02.06.2025 02:14:24

@FediTips I've taken to capitalizing "The Algorithm" in the sense of the manipulative sorts of algorithms referred to here. After all, people are referring to a very specific phenomenon with a very specific design goal when they say that, and not to algorithms generally, without which computers simply wouldn't function.

Föderation EN Mo 02.06.2025 18:53:17

@pteryx

I think it's useful to treat technical vocab separately in general and technical contexts? Quite often technical terms migrate into a general use with a related but slightly different meaning.

When non-tech people say "algorithm" they almost always mean a manipulative opaque system that messes around with their timeline in unclear ways.

Another example is "computer", which almost always means a laptop or desktop but technically it could mean a phone, watch, microwave etc etc.

Föderation EN Mo 02.06.2025 06:53:35

@FediTips The fact that some of the terms have gone from algospeak to full-on slang that people use is interesting, though.

Föderation EN Mo 02.06.2025 09:49:34

@FediTips Weird spelling or the use of emoji may also impact screenreader use. I haven't tested out myself what "patr€on" sounds like, and while 🍏🍏 may be obvious to (some) sighted users, I'm not sure about anyone else. (Though honestly, it wasn't obvious to me without the context of the post.)

Föderation EN Mo 02.06.2025 18:50:18

@june_thalia_michael

It's a really bad idea to use non-standard characters for stylistic reasons, it does affect screen readers significantly.

I think patr€on would sound like "patr" "euro sign" "on".

Föderation EN Mo 02.06.2025 18:55:03

@FediTips Yeah. I know about the "please don't use unicode for prettier fonds" thing, but it also affects on the smaller scale.
That's awful. (And really not necessary here, as posts containing the word are not shadowbanned or restricted or anything.)