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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 17:36:13 This is a monumental day for the future of the social web, though it might not be obvious for a while. Mastodon matures its governance model with a great, solid non-profit https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/01/the-people-should-own-the-town-square/ and a coalition of independents push to open up Bluesky's AT Protocol: https://freeourfeeds.com/ These two moves together put the most credible players on solid ground for years to come — and set up the open platforms to enable lots of innovation just when it's needed most. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 17:40:33 $30m could do a lot more good growing and improving the fedi. fixing any problems that people have with it so far. ugh. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 17:43:15 @anildash |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 17:53:14 @RnDanger Because it's an open, interoperable platform with millions of users and interesting apps being built on top of it |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 18:02:46 @anildash And, I'm sorry, it doesn't help that I'm really suspicious of the nonprofit "social armor" effect after seeing ChatGPT and WordPress recently. It's hard not to assume individual profit and power motives are at play here more than anything else when billionaires are held up as valid actors in an independent space. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 20:08:16 I completely agree. I wondered how this place ran without ads. As soon as I registered, on an email I had no spam on, I have been suddenly receiving 10 or more spam emails a day. I have gone without social media before. Not a problem to do it again. I came back from another server and I regret my new choices. This new blue sky thing, it's the antithetical to what the fediverse is supposed to be |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 20:23:55 @DoNotPunchDown @anildash Honestly, the more i learn about Mastodon.Social the more i want to defederate from it. I often wonder what the leaders there think Mastodon is for. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 18:49:12 |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 19:13:38 @spinbackwards @anildash @RnDanger No. It has to be bridged. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 19:39:11 @ahltorp @spinbackwards @anildash @RnDanger We have a great bridge, though! It's run by A New Social https://anew.social/ |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 19:55:11 @evan @spinbackwards @anildash @RnDanger Bridges are good when you can’t solve it any other way, but a bridge is like trying to look out the window, and instead of seeing the full 3D landscape, you see all the objects like they’re decals on the window. If you go to the next window, there is another set of decals there. The tree-shaped decal on both windows represent the same tree in the outside world, but to you they look like two distinct objects. Because you can’t see out the window. |
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Föderation EN Di 14.01.2025 00:01:32 |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 18:50:47 I came here to escape algorithms, ads and Elon. Some early Twitter escapees, notably the Guardian's Zoe Williams, found that here was boring and having to search for stuff rather than the platform deciding what you wanted was too hard. Hence they flew back and are probably now on BlueSky. I don't know because apart from the sketchy bridge thingy I can't see it unless I sign up there. Extending ActivityHub & AT to interoperate gives us fhe best of worlds a choice of platform that best satisfies one's curated or non-curated needs but not at the expense of choosing the group of people you can interact with. That's the what Fediverse was built for. At the instance or individual level to see all or just yourself. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 17:59:28 @anildash this is a weird comparison. Mastodon takes an actual action and this other thing writes an open letter? |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 18:03:19 @anildash I'm a little cynical about announcements of fundraising *targets* but still, the important take-away is that a lot of people have noticed that social networking as a commercial product really doesn’t have an interesting future, it’s time to build out alternatives. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 18:59:01 @anildash I'd have liked them to wait to name the principals in the new org. "It's a nonprofit!" does not tell us very much yet. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 19:08:00 @anildash I’m glad someone is taking steps to build a second infrastructure (or at least relay) for Bluesky. It seems like a heavy lift. It’s striking that this group’s fundraising goal ($30mm) is about as much as Bluesky has raised itself. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 19:55:40 @anildash those are enormously great news! Thanks for sharing. |
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Föderation EN Mo 13.01.2025 20:08:17 @anildash Fortune had an article today about #FreeOurFeeds that referenced Mastodon and ActivityPub at the end. |
