Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:16:44 The chaotic urge to tell Linux evangelists to "Just install Windows" when they post even the smallest gripe about Linux... |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:18:24 @bortzmeyer hehe |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:21:09 May i tell you about our Lord and Saviour ReactOS? |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:22:16 @bortzmeyer @catsalad |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:28:49 @leeloo @bortzmeyer @catsalad they usually use "just run linux", which is clever because it doesn't mention the GODDAMN INSTALL of the stuff. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:39:40 @defred @bortzmeyer @catsalad But maybe jnstalling Linux has become harder? It was pretty easy in 1999. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:56:20 @leeloo @bortzmeyer @catsalad of course it was a joke, I don't talk gentoo installs here :). But being a linux user since 2004, I could have rant about tons of "discomforts" new users will experience, but I give you that modern distro are incredibly easy to install, and with the right default packages it's almost like... A mac :) |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:44:15 @defred @leeloo @bortzmeyer @catsalad |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:16:09 @bortzmeyer @catsalad I have to use all three OSes every day for work. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 19:05:46 @IsItBroke @bortzmeyer @catsalad Why don't you get a job planting flowers in the ground? |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 19:08:58 @khleedril @bortzmeyer @catsalad Nobody would hire me for my horticultural skills. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:57:18 No, first you say: Don't run a messy system assembled from a bunch of different sources, install FreeBSD, it's much more coherent. Then you say: Don't use a system designed for big servers on your personal machine, install OpenBSD, it's much simpler and easier to secure. Then you say: Don't use a system that's so paranoid in its security, install NetBSD, it's easier to configure. And then you say: Don't run a server OS for your desktop, install Haiku. Bonus points if you make them install IllumOS in the middle. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:46:33 @david_chisnall @bortzmeyer @catsalad |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 20:11:05 @bortzmeyer @catsalad because NetBSD is better |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:17:52 @catsalad You're evil. I love it. But also I would hate this lmao. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:19:07 @catsalad "Just buy a Mac" somehow feels worse. |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:56:44 @Eat_Your_Paisleys @catsalad a lot of reasons. While on a technical level there are a lot of similarities, generally Apple and Linux fans couldn't be more different. The consumerist culture surrounding Apple is a part of it. The "buy" in my statement alludes to that. |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 18:13:33 @Eat_Your_Paisleys @catsalad I am aware |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:21:06 @catsalad but seriously? Windows?? |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:21:07 @catsalad "who HURD you?" |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:21:53 @catsalad Even worse: "Just buy a new mac, not an issue for me" |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:39:54 @plaetzchen @catsalad And then to complete the encirclement, a Linux user that goes "Oh, you have a problem? Well, PRs welcome. You really need to be a better FOSS citizen." |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 20:22:49 @mandelhorn @plaetzchen @catsalad It's called free software, damnit, that means you're free to fix a bug when you see it, and use your fixed version forever, and nobody can stop you. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:22:12 @catsalad Of course it runs NetBSD! |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:22:37 @catsalad i think every full time linux user must run windows 3 months a year just to see what they're missing out on. maybe some of these are things they like missing out on, sure. but they should make that decision consciously |
Föderation · Mo 30.06.2025 15:24:58 @kopper@wetdry.world @catsalad@infosec.exchange ngl it took me a month of running windows to go back to my jankfest of choice, im not touching that for another few years |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:32:16 @kopper It's painful going back to Windows when your daily driver is Linux/BSD/etc. |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:44:01 @Sparkwave @catsalad iex https://get.activated.win | irm |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:44:47 @Sparkwave @kopper @catsalad Windows powershell equivalent of a "curl trustmebro.yolo | sudo bash" to perform an, erm, zero cost license activation against the current most popular provider of those. (although... shouldn't that be iwr ... | iex ?) |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:37:21 @bdf2121cc3334b35b6ecda66e471 @catsalad ok but people do more than programming on they computers |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:23:12 @catsalad I have lived with Linux longer than I did my parents, and the mutual disappointment is often greater too. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:23:47 @catsalad look, some simple WMI classes fix all this that you're complaining about, I thought y'all could dig into the details of a system! |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:28:27 @catsalad "here's how I do that on my ipad with no problems..." |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:29:38 @neurovagrant @catsalad if I can't do it on Linux it's not worth doing |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:48:45 @sycophantic @neurovagrant @catsalad tell me about it. |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:33:04 @catsalad i could probably rewrite whichever thing is giving me trouble from scratch in the time it usually takes to install windows. But whining is faster than both options! |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:33:28 @catsalad i see what you did there 🤣 |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:33:35 "Just buy a Mac" |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:33:45 @catsalad thats just an average tiktok comment section |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:34:41 @catsalad Just code your own OS on a RISC-V CPU... noobs. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:41:18 @catsalad I instantly felt the need to write a new copy/paste message: “Have you heard of this small operating system project that might be able to solve your issues, it’s called ‘Windows 11’ - or more technically ‘Microsoft Windows NT version 11’. It has many tools out of the box and offers you upsells to fix the problems it causes” |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:14:02 @andysomniac @catsalad on another machine I have an installer ISO for Windows NT 4.0 Workstation. A mere 474 meg. Not even a whole CD! They could put some Weezer videos in that extra space! |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 18:19:59 @andysomniac @catsalad what the fuck I just realized Windows 11 is INDEED 11th main release of Windows NT |
Föderation IT Mo 30.06.2025 15:45:26 @catsalad keep in mind that the popularization of Linux will bring all the barely capable of clicking lusers with it. |
Föderation IT Mo 30.06.2025 15:58:51 @gmarcosanti @catsalad Well... Microsoft has been actively making said users more vulnerable... so yes apparently. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 20:03:07 @gmarcosanti @catsalad I mean, usually if I introduce a "normie" user to Linux, they pretty quickly (within a month or two) want to learn a bit more, then a bit more, then a bit more. Most people *want* to understand how the stuff they use works, but they're so used to everything being a black box they give up and assume it's too much trouble. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:45:38 @catsalad It has a Windows Subsystem For Linux now! Or, as I prefer to call it, GNU/NTOSKRNL.EXE or GNU plus NTOSKRNL.EXE |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 15:47:14 @catsalad Rather comparable to the "buy a Mac" retort whenever a Windows user has a problem they want help for, I guess. 😬 |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:11:05 @catsalad ROFL. You are going to get trolled for that. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:11:58 @catsalad I think it is because we assume that they are people that enjoy griping. If so, they will have more to complain about, and enjoy griping even more, when using windoze. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:14:20 @catsalad |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:20:48 @catsalad JUST CODE YOUR OWN WINDOWS!!! HOW LONG CAN IT POSSIBLY TAKE - A DAY?! |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:24:35 @catsalad It’s tempting sometimes. Both going back to Windows and telling annoying evangelists to, that is. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 16:30:12 @catsalad omg do they even know how powerful powershell is? |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:17:54 @catsalad You joke, but I’ve been hearing “just install Windows” for 30 years. Funny how being part of a majority culture makes you feel entitled to belittle minority cultures. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:31:37 @catsalad It’s kind of hilarious how many people are responding with serious comments. Medien: 1 |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:34:22 @catsalad get a V-Tech laptop. Medien: 1 |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:38:28 This bear waits for them to mention GNU, and then says "I met Terry Pratchett a few times. Of course I remember him." |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:43:20 @catsalad just install TempleOS |
Föderation DE Mo 30.06.2025 17:45:33 @catsalad |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 17:46:55 @catsalad "just install Mac!" |
Föderation DE Mo 30.06.2025 18:09:47 @catsalad have you considered to install Arch??? Have you??? |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 18:19:54 @catsalad |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 18:28:55 @catsalad What?! What was that sound?!! A disturbance in the force! It was like...it was like millions of basement dwellers imploding at once.... |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 18:38:09 @catsalad as a daily Linux user, I can say; you aren't wrong. I respond to a lot of people who say "I need windows for... How do I go to Linux?" The answer, sometimes you don't. Windows, Linux, BSD, OSx all exist for a reason. |
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Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 19:33:07 @catsalad aaaah yes Windows! The best thing Steve Jobs ever did! But I must say, I tried the Ubuntu 95 BSD version some years back - not for me. |
Föderation EN Mo 30.06.2025 20:12:33 @catsalad No need to even do that. I always complain over stupid Terminal and why everything has to be done through it and they all lose their shit. And it's true. Fuck off with your commandline, I was sick of it through entire fucking 90s, surely I don't need that shit in 2025 anymore. I don't want to memorize or search for cryptic super long noodles of commands just to activate some basic shit. Seriously. |