infinite love ⴳ (@trwnh@mastodon.social)
Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 18:08:23
@evan that would be an improvement, but what would be an even bigger improvement is being able to publish and manage multiple collections, not just a singular outbox. it's a shame that the `streams` property hasn't seen implementation or usage! the other side of this is that i think that the Add should be more widely federated than the Create. Create is ironically described as having basically close to zero side effects in the AP spec, but in fedi it is the primary activity.
infinite love ⴳ (@trwnh@mastodon.social)
Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 18:11:32
@evan an example would be Google+ Collections, blog categories, or really any arbitrary collection of stuff
Create makes sense as a way to register that an object has been "created" in some kind of CMS or database. something like Neocities has an "activity stream" where you could easily map "x created a page" or "x updated a page" to activities. the activity is basically the "post", not the object.
infinite love ⴳ (@trwnh@mastodon.social)
Föderation EN Mo 29.07.2024 11:23:50
@khleedril @evan this is just convention. you could just as easily deal with Create activities in a way that isn't redundant. in that sense, the focus is less on the object itself and more on the act of creation. but it could go either way.
infinite love ⴳ (@trwnh@mastodon.social)
Föderation EN Mo 29.07.2024 11:24:56
@khleedril @evan one thing i was toying around with mentally, is if objects were attributedTo the Create activity that created them, and then having a separate property for authorship metadata. another way of doing it would be having some kind of object history collection, for activities where the `object` is the current object. then get the oldest/first item from that collection, which should be the Create (but that's less direct).
Evan Prodromou (@evan@cosocial.ca)
Föderation EN Mo 29.07.2024 14:06:38
@trwnh @khleedril Maybe the other way around. We already use `attributedTo` for authorship; add an `objectOf` for the `Create` activity.
Evan Prodromou (@evan@cosocial.ca)
Föderation EN So 28.07.2024 18:32:31
@trwnh I agree. I also think `streams` is helpful for sorting main timeline stuff (`Create`, `Announce`, `Question`) in the `inbox` from notifications like `Update`, `Like`, or `Add`. Also for list inboxes, direct messages, etc.
That all said, I think the right way to do things now is just add an extension property to the actor.
