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Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (@youronlyone@c.im)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 14:52:46

re: `fediverse:creator` “OpenGraph” tag.

What is the `prefix=''` namespace for `fediverse:`?

I checked the official website of (see: ogp.me) and I don't see the `fediverse:` namespace anywhere. Which means this `fediverse:` namespace is _not_ an OpenGraph tag and will more likely not work without a proper prefix namespace, correct?

So, what am I missing here? People are already adding it. O_O

Cadu Silva :verified_a_2:

Cadu Silva :verified_a_2: (@cadusilva@bolha.one)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 14:55:30

@youronlyone there was a discussion about it in the pull request but Eugen merged it anyway

:github: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p

Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (@youronlyone@c.im)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 15:10:03

@cadusilva Thank you for that!

Glad to know there are others concerned about (1) the lack of documentation, (2) calling it “OpenGraph” when it isn't, (3) lack of namespace for the prefix; and I haven't even thought of this: (4) control over the “fediverse:” prefix. Are they going to control the prefix from hereon, and the rest will once again be forced to follow?

Another good point in that thread is: (5) `property` vs `name`.

Cadu Silva :verified_a_2:

Cadu Silva :verified_a_2: (@cadusilva@bolha.one)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 15:23:13

@youronlyone it ended up being a monocratic decision, right? It didn't take into account the concerns brought in the thread.

Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢

Yohan Yuki Xieㆍ사요한・謝雪矢 (@youronlyone@c.im)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 15:57:46

@cadusilva Yep. They also said the goal is for everyone to use it, but they did not discuss it with everyone (or at least the stakeholders). They're going to introduce another thing and their goal is for everyone forced to use it because that's the way they want it to work, not because it was discussed openly by all stakeholders.

*shrugs*

Cadu Silva :verified_a_2:

Cadu Silva :verified_a_2: (@cadusilva@bolha.one)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 16:02:53

@youronlyone our very own "little big tech", putting their weight over things.

Evan Prodromou

Evan Prodromou (@evan@cosocial.ca)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 15:03:36

@youronlyone I've never seen this. Could you link to where you found out about it?

Evan Prodromou

Evan Prodromou (@evan@cosocial.ca)

Föderation EN Sa 15.06.2024 16:16:32

@youronlyone @cadusilva thanks for the link!

Mike Macgirvin 🖥️

Mike Macgirvin 🖥️ (@mikedev@fediversity.site)

Föderation · Sa 15.06.2024 22:48:09

As I mentioned elsewhere, there is a case for providing json-ld metadata - which is already in use and has been blessed by Google (not that I care) and dumping both OpenGraph and X/Cards in favour of open standards over proprietary and non-extensible solutions. The Alphabet currently only blesses @context values using schema.org, but this is where the fediverse can assert a standard context that works for us and just start using it. And it's already defined!.