Ross Andrews (@randrews@somewhy.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 16:32:46
@Penguinflight @Hyolobrika Who reads that and their first response isn't "well I'll just run one then?" It's really not that hard! The fediverse is great because you have the option not to deal with petty tyrants if you don't want to.
Hyolobrika (@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 16:36:54
Ross Andrews (@randrews@somewhy.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 16:42:23
@Hyolobrika @Penguinflight It takes far less of both than you probably imagine. I'm paying about $25/mo for somewhy, setting it up was a couple clicks, and I've only had to mess with it after that a couple times (version upgrades).
Hyolobrika (@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 16:46:11
Hyolobrika (@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 16:46:59
Ross Andrews (@randrews@somewhy.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 17:45:46
@sun_eat3r @Penguinflight @Hyolobrika Then don't host one. /shrug The thing about Mastodon is that it gives you the choice, "do I value $25 more than I value not putting up with a psychotic admin." Other platforms don't give you that choice.
My point is that the original post makes it seem inevitable that you're going to be on someone else's instance, when that's not at all true. More people could host their own than are probably aware they could host their own, even if that's not everyone.
Hyolobrika (@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 17:53:04
silverpill (@silverpill@mitra.social)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 18:53:50
@Hyolobrika @randrews @sun_eat3r @Penguinflight
>$25
By the way my instance costs me ~$5 per month, and the server is barely utilized. The competition between fedi software will eventually drive the price down to almost zero.
By 2030, you will run your own site, and it will be a part of social web.
nigger from detroit (@pernia@cum.salon)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 18:58:56
silverpill (@silverpill@mitra.social)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 19:06:10
@pernia @Hyolobrika @randrews @sun_eat3r @Penguinflight It should work on bsd, but as far as I know nobody tried that.
You'll need rust compiler, openssl, postgresql and some kind of web server.
nigger from detroit (@pernia@cum.salon)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 19:07:38
silverpill (@silverpill@mitra.social)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 19:30:03
@pernia Yes, libressl should work. Webserver would be needed for HTTPS because Mitra doesn't provide this feature yet. If you're going to run a Tor instance, then webserver is not needed.
nigger from detroit (@pernia@cum.salon)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 19:32:22
silverpill (@silverpill@mitra.social)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 19:45:10
@pernia Mitra (the server) can serve its web frontend (or any other collection of static files), you don't need a separate webserver for that.
A separate webserver like nginx is only required for handling HTTPS connections.
nigger from detroit (@pernia@cum.salon)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 19:57:26
silverpill (@silverpill@mitra.social)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 20:05:53
@pernia Yes, I think that would be a nice feature.
Hyolobrika (@Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)
Föderation EN Sa 20.01.2024 19:51:34
silverpill (@silverpill@mitra.social)
Föderation · Sa 20.01.2024 20:03:56
@Hyolobrika @randrews @sun_eat3r @Penguinflight The software can be very inefficient (like Mastodon, for which you have to pay more), it can be also be over-complicated and fragile (so you have to spend more time on it). I think people will slowly migrate to servers that are more efficient and simple. The end game is a social web node that doesn't need a domain name at all and runs from your phone.
