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· Föderation EN Fr 01.11.2024 19:16:51

@simon_brooke @d6 I see that global cement manufacturing contributed 1600 megatons of CO₂ in 2022. That's over 50 tons per second. The carbon footprint of all 23 superyachts would have added up to 0.008% of the annual cement emissions, which is the amount emitted by 43 minutes of cement production.

So maybe, just from the point of view of reducing carbon emissions, megayachts aren't a significant issue.

Föderation EN Fr 01.11.2024 19:30:09

@mjd @d6 We're going to have to stop using concrete for almost all purposes. We're going to have to stop using fossil fuels (and the plastics made from them) altogether. Both of those are going to be very hard things to do, because concrete, plastics and fossil fuels are all extremely useful. Giving them up will be hard.

Superyachts, for 99.99999% of people on the planet, are of very marginal utility. Giving them up isn't a huge win, but it's an easy one.

Föderation EN Fr 01.11.2024 19:31:51

@mjd i agree but the point i took from the article is that in terms of individual people's choices, only the very richest can significantly affect the bottom line. the anecdotes about yachts and jets were illustrative (as far as i could tell anyway) @simon_brooke

Föderation EN Fr 01.11.2024 19:37:18

@d6 @mjd there's also an issue of equity. We cannot all work together, as a world, to solve our very critical problems, when there are such vast disparities of wealth.

Föderation EN Fr 01.11.2024 19:41:31

@d6 I disagree with the point of the article. The personal habits of even the very richest individuals *can't* significantly affect the bottom line. So any effort or political capital expended on fighting the owners of 23 superyachts would be better spent on something that matters.

Imagine a billionaire who could be convinced move the levers of industry to reduce global cement production by 0.01%, but only in return for permission to operate a second superyacht. That would be a large net win.

Superyachts may be part of a big problem, but not this particular big problem.