Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:10:35
@thisismissem @laurenshof That's an interesting hypothesis.
Still, maybe just a little reminder that says "Life is short, not every post needs a reply" when you want to respond to someone who doesn't follow you might help.
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:24:04
@stefan @laurenshof yeah, but it's still a difficult design thing, like where would you put that in this design? There's not really enough room for it.
A modal dialog would probably appear clunky if it were only to go back to the sidebar to compose the reply.
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Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:27:43
@thisismissem @laurenshof Yeah, I'm not really a designer, so I don't have an easy answer.
But I do appreciate that you're seriously considering the idea!
Laurens Hof (@laurenshof@indieweb.social)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:32:47
@stefan @thisismissem i appreciate you taking it seriously Emelia, (and your work in general), but I don't think this is a problem that you can design your way out of
think you can only fix this by the community at large coming to a conclusion that this behaviour is unacceptable and should be called out. which is a bit of a challenge, to put it mildly, seems the wide consensus seems to be that this behaviour is fine lol
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:34:11
@laurenshof @stefan yeah, software can help nudge community culture, but can't change community culture by itself, that's on all of us.
Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:36:32
@thisismissem @laurenshof Absolutely agree that you can't fix this with technology alone, but I like the idea of little "nudges".
Not sure how much this would help, but considering how big of an issue this is, maybe worth trying?
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:40:27
@stefan @laurenshof you probably could create an issue for it, but I also think it's something the mastodon team are already investigating.
I think something that'd be really good to see is a documentation section on "UI guidelines & recommendations for client apps"
Julio J. 🀲 (@j3j5@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:45:22
@stefan @thisismissem @laurenshof fwiw, recently there was a conversation on "spanish mastodon" regarding alt text in images and why people use it and lots of people mentioned they've realized it was a useful option after seeing reminders on their clients.
I agree that little nudges can make a difference even if they aren't silver bullets.
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:33:04
@stefan @laurenshof I think eventually we'll see the composer move into a modal dialogue, at least for replies, but that's probably something @samhenrigold will figure out
sam henri gold (@samhenrigold@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:49:01
@thisismissem @stefan @laurenshof I will get the composer into a modal even if it kills me.
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:53:00
@samhenrigold as an aside, I'm thinking modals in the moderation and admin tools could be useful too (just haven't had a chance to prototype)
sam henri gold (@samhenrigold@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 18:56:43
@thisismissem i wanna figure out how to make settings feel less detached from the whole web app. regarding moderation stuff, i just started my own server for side project bots to experience it first hand.
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 19:51:54
@samhenrigold I'm leaning that there's three different things: settings, moderation tools, and admin. Currently those are all merged together.
I wouldn't recommend rewriting all those in the webapp in react.
Renaud Chaput (@renchap@oisaur.com)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 19:56:49
@thisismissem settings should probsbly be moved to the react app. It would also ensure we expose those settings correctly in the API, and provide a better UI for most users. i al fine with admin/mods not be in the main app, those are quite specific apps for a small amount of users @samhenrigold
Emelia 👸🏻 (@thisismissem@hachyderm.io)
Föderation EN Sa 07.09.2024 20:12:29
@renchap @samhenrigold yeah, that's my gut feeling as well.
Everything that's end-user related should be moved to API + React, but everything moderation or admin related should be on the react side, perhaps with a sprinkling of turbo or something