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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:04:51 GIMP 3.0 is released, check it out! https://www.gimp.org/news/2025/03/16/gimp-3-0-released/ A huge THANK YOU to everyone who contributed in any way - from testing and submitting bug reports through to designing, coding, fixing, packaging, testing some more, translating, documenting, hosting, administration, so many people, so much work, so much to be thankful for! Welcome to GIMP 3.0!
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:07:17 @GIMP Congratulations ! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:07:25 @GIMP 😱 👏👏 Thank you! 🙏 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:08:53 @GIMP Just a note that you linked to what I assume is the testing site :) You probably meant https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-3.0.html Congrats on the release! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:22:52 @VincentTunru thanks! Fixed! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:09:20 @GIMP fix the name you cowards |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:56:07 @petrillic They’re proud of it. They think they’re bravely fighting the PC police (I tried to find a term as outdated as their software 😆). Srsly, there are so many better alternatives now--I can’t imagine why anyone still uses it. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:57:43 They spent thousands of hours on this release and this is were you come up with? Your comment is very disrespectful. Please visit some other parts of the internet. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:27:28 @Scott_Trakker @petrillic Deliberately using a name that is an ableist slur is more disrespectful. And continuing to harass people who call it out is obnoxious. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:30:13 @mjibrower @Scott_Trakker @petrillic Blocked |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:28:52 @ziacik @mjibrower @Scott_Trakker @petrillic I may be new to this topic or just dont fully understand the problem with the language here. I'm just curious what is wrong with the name |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:06:23 @mjibrower @petrillic “…3.0 is released!” |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:30:11 @crowbriarhexe @mjibrower @petrillic so is the word gimp a problem? |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:40:56 @kkavee @crowbriarhexe @mjibrower @petrillic 1 - offensive : a disabled person |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:46:18 @tankgrrl @crowbriarhexe @mjibrower @petrillic ah I see. I may live oversea now but English is still my second language. I actually never heard the word gimp being used in other context other than the software. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:01:07 @kkavee @tankgrrl @crowbriarhexe @mjibrower @petrillic yup, most people have stopped using ableist slurs, but [edit: a sizeable fraction of] the maintainers of this project take pride in it for some reason |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:21:00 Same happened to me, but the day I learned that word is a slur, I understood that is wrong, and their unwillingness to change means I cannot use nor recommend that software |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:39:03 @petrillic @GIMP thanks for pointing this out. I honestly hadn’t connected the dots until now. Gotta address the ableism |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:56:59 They spent thousands of hours on this release and this is were you come up with? Your comment is very disrespectful. Please visit some other parts of the internet. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:29:37 @Scott_Trakker @petrillic @GIMP I think if you're going to respond to everyone who offers criticism, you should at least write an original reply for each one. It's a little disrespectful imho. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:32:15 What you wrote is not criticism, but pure negativity. It's not welcome here on Mastodon. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:34:31 @Scott_Trakker @petrillic @GIMP on the contrary. I was offering a constructive suggestion for improving discourse. I could have simply asked you to spend more time elsewhere on the internet. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:50:09 @Scott_Trakker @LittleFrank @petrillic @GIMP and you are like a police here, to tell people what they can say on this platform and what not ? |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:57:20 @Edynho @Scott_Trakker @LittleFrank @petrillic @GIMP social control works. GIMP is great thank you |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:05:06 @Scott_Trakker @LittleFrank @petrillic @GIMP Neither is ableism, but that hasn't stopped anyone from publishing a program that uses an ableist slur for decades. Why don't you take your tone policing somewhere else? |
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Föderation · Di 18.03.2025 00:34:21 @Scott_Trakker@mastodon.world @LittleFrank@mas.to @petrillic@hachyderm.io @GIMP@floss.social |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:38:56 @petrillic @GIMP If you really cared about the GIMP name, you'd be doing something about it. You could fork GIMP, rename it to whatever, set up a download site and see for yourself if anyone really cares about the name. If you cant do it yourself, you could pay someone or raise funds for someone to do it. It isn't all that much work. But no. Instead, all you do is bitch. That leads me to believe that all you really want to do is bitch. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:48:13 @petrillic @GIMP There's a relatively easy fix: they could call it GNU IMP, meaning that the full name remains the same (GNU Image Manipulation Program) and only the offensive acronym is dropped. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 02:46:24 I just pronounce it with a soft G. Problem solved. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:09:27 @GIMP Hell yeah! Congrats! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:12:36 @GIMP Congratulations |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:13:16 @GIMP Let's goooo!!!! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:18:51 @GIMP put modern editing features in you cowards! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:00:42 They spent thousands of hours on this release and this is were you come up with? Your comment is very disrespectful. Please visit some other parts of the internet. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:20:51 @Scott_Trakker @GIMP 25 years of the same old same old. It is worse now from a feature perspective than it ever has been. And we're supposed to be grateful? If they can't work on basic functionality, instead of *checks release notes* loading files from a computer system that was defunct 40 years ago, they should give it up. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:28:31 Yes, you should be grateful. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:33:09 @Scott_Trakker@mastodon.world @GIMP Go way dude. You're the one that showed up in my mentions to complain that someone doesn't appreciate trash. You're not king of the internet, bro. Go away. You're servile attitude isn't appreciated anywhere. What's next? "You've got the code. Patch it yourself?" That abusive talk was stupid 40 years ago. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:22:26 @Scott_Trakker @jonathankoren @GIMP Jesus dude, copy-paste much? GIMP is gimped. OH boy! We finally caught up to Wayland! Still cant stack. Still looks like something from windows 95. Still screwed the plug-ins Rawtherapee and Darktable are MILES ahead in usability and competent UI. Stop gatekeeping, gatekeeper. Or find a better hill to die on. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:00:36 @jonathankoren @GIMP pretty sure pull requests are open |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:01:51 @miniBill @GIMP |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:08:01 @jonathankoren Please keep it civil - thank you. GIMP is produced by volunteers. If you want specific features, yes, please file issues. If you want to be on the design team join the design team. But without code being written by volunteers, there won’t be changes. Vague suggestions like “modern editing tools” are hard to implement. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 03:38:06 @GIMP @jonathankoren I really think you should sell the software binaries like #Ardour does. Not less than US $100. Free updates until next major version. Many human beings will always be ungrateful for what they are given for free without payment. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 03:45:32 @opensourceopenmind @jonathankoren to be fair, many people are also ungrateful to things they paid for...! |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 03:54:13 @GIMP @jonathankoren Yes, but at least you'll get some funding for development out of it. Maybe even some insight into what features paid users are missing. Right now, complaining is free without much benefit - instead you have to put in time and effort to reply. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:02:21 @opensourceopenmind @jonathankoren Thanks! We do have patreon links for some of the developers, and people do donate. Development direction is partly what interests the volunteers (since they are volunteers!) and partly informed by the thousands of requests and issues we get on gitlab and elsewhere. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:08:50 @jonathankoren @GIMP My reply was probably unhelpful, and for that I'm sorry. I was irked by you calling the devs "cowards". I wish you happiness and success in your life, and may your future contain conversations more productive than this one. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:20:24 @GIMP Congratulations to the team for all the hard work!! Never mind the trolls and keep going!! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:22:38 @GIMP |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:06:36 @deuch @GIMP |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:21:59 @mpjgregoire @deuch @GIMP en fait la version 3.0 RC3 est déjà dans trixie/testing qui doit être publiée ~ cet été. Je suis sûr que la 3.0 suivra prochainement. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:23:11 @GIMP congratulations to the whole team! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:23:41 @GIMP wow, grats! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:23:43 @GIMP congratulations!! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:23:48 @GIMP Would've been a great opportunity to change the name. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:24:02 @scy So this is a swearword for gay people? I did not know this. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:32:20 @giggls You didn't, but the devs do. And the main issue isn't about gay people, it's that it's a derogatory term for physically disabled persons. The most accurate German translation would probably be "Krüppel". |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:58:10 The word hast more then one meaning: |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:37:24 So does another very offensive word for gay people starting with F. Doesn't make it ok. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:11:16 @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy Would anybody be interested in a rebranding fork? We leave everything as it us, but change the logo, name, which means making a new repo, doing some changes to the website contents, registering a new url, and then advertise in thr community why the change. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 03:56:05 Long reply, TL;DR at the end |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:05:36 Long reply, TL;DR at the end |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:21:04 Long reply, TL;DR at the end |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:34:10 Long reply, TL;DR at the end |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 06:59:41 (Very l)ong reply, (no) TL;DR at the end |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 07:05:55 (Very l)ong reply, (no) TL;DR at the end |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:06:39 @fallbackerik @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy and also change the plug-in API, rewrite 10,000+ plug-ins and scripts, courses, documentation, 70+ language translations, find hosting for > 100K downloads/day... Changing the name is a possibility for the future; for now we have what we have. A hostile fork is always possible, but you do need a team of developers. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:10:00 @GIMP @fallbackerik @supertobi @giggls @scy I understand the scope of work and don't expect miracles. Perhaps rewording your FAQ would make it seem a little less hostile to the idea that the name might be inappropriate. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:41:57 @GIMP @fallbackerik @Toastface @supertobi @giggls @scy You could just drop the G from the abbreviation, the word "IMP" would work fine as it's a mischievous fairy. I mean this in a really positive way: you have an army of people waiting to promote you and support you, but they're being held back because of the letter G. It would be a tiny change and massive reward for you 🙂 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:24:19 @GIMP I *really* hope PhotoGIMP continues to work with this version or I'll have to stay on 2.x |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:37:06 @deutrino it will probably take a while for third-party plug-ins and add-ons and settings packs to catch up. Contact them and ask, so they know it’s wanted :-) |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:28:26 @GIMP woohoo! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:32:52 @GIMP |
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Föderation · Mo 17.03.2025 20:33:37 @GIMP |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:47:21 @GIMP |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:47:21 @GIMP from the bottom of my heart, thank you for making so much work freely available for everyone on this planet. This... is the way... |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:53:55 @GIMP congratulations 🎉🎊 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 20:56:57 @GIMP I've been waiting for this moment for literally years, congratulations!!! Thank you all involved in this, good job! :) |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:13:24 @GIMP congratulations on this big release <3 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:16:58 @GIMP@floss.social slurs against disabled people are so 1825, change the name you ableist fucks |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:33:48 @mxjaygrant @GIMP actually for me it always was the sexual thing. Today I learned.. why are we not even remotely talking about changing the name?! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:44:27 @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant @GIMP The discussion about the name is very old. It is even in the FAQ: https://www.gimp.org/docs/userfaq.html#i-dont-like-the-name-gimp-will-you-change-it And there was a fork, Glimpse, but they could not find enough contributors: https://news.itsfoss.com/glimpse-gimp-fork-archived/ And that's how open source works. If no one cares, nothing will change. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:06:05 @supertobi @mxjaygrant @GIMP yeah I know all that. But the thing is, the more I grow away from my nerdy teenage self, I understand it less and less. The "coincidence" while finding an acronym is just incomprehensible. It might have been "funny" back then, but now it isn't any more. The FAQ reads like the project didn't grow up which is sad because the program is great and the new people involved are as well. So I wonder why keep that cruft. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:22:35 @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant @GIMP Remember, renaming costs money and is a lot of work that the team might prefer to invest in the product. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 02:15:06 @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant @GIMP They aren't open to changing the name. If they were and actually said we want to but we need to do such and such and it costs money they would actually get support to help. Right now they are just being obtuse. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 02:51:31 @rawrmonstar @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant @GIMP For what it's worth, this issue was discussed during a team meet-up in the last few years: https://developer.gimp.org/conferences/wilberweek/2023-amsterdam/#gimp-renaming It's one of the many things that developers want to come back to, after we recover from the 3.0 release. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:29:33 @CmykStudent @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant @GIMP y’all might want to update the FAQ if it’s an actual possibility! Based off of that it sounds less like “its difficult to change such an old name” to “we won’t change it and in fact it’s for some principled reason” |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 06:58:32 @rawrmonstar @CmykStudent @supertobi @piratenpanda @mxjaygrant@triangletoot. Thanks.. It’s on the agenda to discuss, which would include the practicalities. As the individual (@barefootliam) responding in this message, i’ll say ii hadn’t noticed that FAQ comment before today and will suggest changing it, if whoever wrote it isn’t too wedded to it. We have parts of the Web site going back almost 30 years! |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 07:10:31 @GIMP @rawrmonstar @CmykStudent @supertobi @barefootliam thanks for taking your time to reply here. Appreciated! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:36:01 @piratenpanda @supertobi @mxjaygrant @GIMP Yeah, I could get behind the dorky logo, it's kinda sweet but the name is just ... ew. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:09:21 @piratenpanda @supertobi @mxjaygrant @GIMP All kinds of definitions related to detail-work, especially for making aesthetic improvements, and even a definition meaning "tidy" or "elegant"? Sure, you can argue they thought the double-meaning could shield them from criticism or whatever, but I doubt they'd even care back then, and that's not a far walk from paranoid hypotheticals. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:22:26 It is freezing in hell! Congratulations!!! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:26:09 @GIMP 🍻 👏 🎉 |
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Föderation ES Mo 17.03.2025 21:28:58 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:30:49 @GIMP Waiting for that a .deb version is released for Debian/Ubuntu. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:31:25 @GIMP change the name! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:33:17 @GIMP congratulations to the whole team! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:53:15 Congratulations 🥳! |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:07:31 @Scott_Trakker thank you so much! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:55:51 @GIMP congratulations! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:56:01 @GIMP Great job and great milestone, thank you! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 21:58:43 @GIMP |
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Föderation · Mo 17.03.2025 21:58:56 @GIMP ooooo cant wait to play with it |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:06:55 Thank you Gimp team, what you achieved with this release is amazing, and it is only the beginning! 🙏 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:13:26 @GIMP congrats! but crashes on Apple silicon when choosing a brush 😭 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:56:13 @d4v Someone reported something similar. A workaround until we fix this (for 3.0.2!) is to switch from gridview to list. Could you try and confirm? |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:25:16 I have mixed feelings about this as I know it will 1. probably be as clunky to use as its predecessors, 2. probably not have backward compatibility including breaking plugins. But as there is no FOSS alternative to GIMP with the breadth of functionality of it, that I'm aware of, we just have to suck it up. Congratulations, I guess? |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:28:34 Gimp is not clunky, and everything that is based on GEGL is NDE, this a pretty big achievement. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:32:25 @GIMP FTR, the screenshot still says "3.0.0 RC2". If the final release is actually out, you should change that. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 04:09:25 @gcvsa was a web hosting cache problem, hmm, i’ll update the image manually! thanks! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:43:13 @GIMP When will you get rid of the discriminatory name for the software package and heed the good suggestion of GLIMPSE as name? |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:48:06 @GIMP Thanks! Let's hope it is soon in the Arch repositories! 🙂 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:54:04 @GIMP Congratulation! 🎉 |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:00:45 @davidrevoy @GIMP hâte de voir une petit prises en main avec tablette du nouveau #Gimp3 par david en vidéo. Petite infidélité passagère pour #krita , on dira rien ;-) |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:56:00 @GIMP congratulations on the release! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:58:35 @GIMP did it finally fix the issues with Wayland, in particular when using a tiling window manager like Sway? I basically haven’t been able to use GIMP in years after migrating to Wayland, and when I have to use it I have to start an X11 session just for that. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 22:58:54 @GIMP oh HE'LL yeah |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:00:23 @GIMP HOLY MOLY |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:01:24 @GIMP Nice birthday gift for me :D |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:09:54 @GIMP LET'S GOOOO. Can't wait to try it! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:17:39 @GIMP sending a massive thank you to everyone that contributed! |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:44:39 "we feel that in the long run, sterilization of language will do more harm than good." Oof, yeah, not installing this every again. |
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Föderation EN Mo 17.03.2025 23:53:27 @GIMP Congrats |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:01:18 @GIMP
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 01:11:23 @RodolfoGigante weird, can you file a bug report please? There's a link near the bottom of gimp.org - thanks! |
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Föderation · Di 18.03.2025 00:03:07 @GIMP Hmm. Last time i tried, i couldn't but turn GIMP into Photoshop. Is that easier now? I don't need all this AI stuff.... |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:10:51 @GIMP |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:25:42 No, I don't have any suggestions. There are more creative folks than me. My brother is disabled & ppl used to call him a gimp growing up. It's a hurtful word in Englisch. |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:14:43 @GIMP ❤️ |
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Föderation EN Di 18.03.2025 00:15:49 @GIMP Checked the changelog and loved ALL of it. All my frequent pain points as occasional business/industry (not design) user: SOLVED! Danke! 🤲 |
