Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 18:55:57 We’ve made the hard decision to end our experiment with Mozilla.social and will shut down the Mastodon instance on December 17, 2024. Thank you for being part of the Mozilla.social community and providing feedback during our closed beta. You can continue to use Mozilla.social until December 17. Before that date, you can download your data here (https://mozilla.social/settings/export), and migrate your account to another instance following these instructions (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mozilla-social-faq). |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 18:58:34 @mozilla pathetic |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 18:58:57 How did the experiment go? |
Föderation · Di 17.09.2024 18:59:11 @mozilla@mozilla.social damn glad I didn't get that position working on Elk |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 18:59:21 @mozilla why,i am tired of mozilla shutting everything down without properly developing and marketing products, mozilla.social had potential and is going to Mozilla Graveyard to join many products with potential not unlike mozilla.social,i give up on mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:00:09 @mozilla need more resources for doing the exact opposite of what users want I guess |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:00:11 @mozilla sad |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:01:55 @mozilla You guys are doing a great job of limiting your market share! 👍 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:01:59 @mozilla people want stuff like this, NOT AI |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:02:03 @mozilla I just hope the money you save by shutting down mozilla.social can be used to go towards your AI chatbot bullshit that none of your users actually fucking want. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:03:00 @mozilla disappointment over disappointment |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:03:01 @mozilla that’s unfortunate to hear. Where will the Mozilla account’s handle be moved to? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:40:10 |
Föderation · Di 17.09.2024 19:42:22 @mozilla@threads.net i guess
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Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:03:42 @mozilla can y'all make this a custom emoji for these last 4 months? (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:05:03 @mozilla just another greedy corporation. So dissapointing. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:40:54 @precariousmind @mozilla explain how you got from "we have decided to stop operating our own instance that has paid mods" to "greedy corpo grr" |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:05:51 @mozilla Lmao Mozilla could teach a masterclass in how to piss off all of your users and drive your business into the ground. Great decision here, I’ll be looking forward to the next useless chatbot in the browser though! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:07:21 @mozilla I hope you will migrate your accounts to mastodon.social |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:07:51 @mozilla "Ever since we shutdown mozilla.social and disengaged from Mastodon, the sentiment analysis on our social media posts regarding our AI initiatives shows positive reactions went up a staggering 857%! I guess everyone on X seems to like them! A great win for our sharehol—I mean, our sponsors!" |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:40:08 @hisham_hm @mozilla theyre atill going to be on mastodon, just not on their own instance |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:07:58 @Blisterexe @hisham_hm @mozilla remains to be seen |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:09:15 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:42:17 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:05:00 @OddDev Nice! I'm starting to look beyond Firefox after 15+ years. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:10:51 @mozilla Can you be honest with us about what is going on with your company? How can we help you get back on track? -Sincerely, a concerned, supportive user. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:13:52 @mozilla come on guys, it's just a bog-standard mastodon instance. it costs you pennies to run and gives a clear official channel for mozilla communications in the fediverse. surely you can stand to spend a few dollars of the hundreds of millions you get from google for search to keep it open? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:15:39 @mozilla In my list-of-companies-I'd-like-to-be-able-to-repect this is another nail in the coffin of mozilla. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:16:32 @mozilla You don't have to imitate Google either in their habit of shutting down every service they launch. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:16:47 @mozilla What result from the experiment is behind the decision? Cost / maintenance hours / community fit etc. I can't imagine there being another social network with a higher ratio of Firefox users than here. /Firefox user |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:17:44 (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:19:03 I have a feeling that by the end of the year, Mozilla will be completely enshittificated. Glad I finally switched to LibreWolf after Firefox got ChatGPT integration and ad-measurement spyware pre-enabled. Fuck you, Mozilla. You are becoming the very thing you were supposed to be fighting - another greedy corporation. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:08:14 @fox84 |
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Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:41:33 @SkipfordJ LibreWolf is based on Firefox. Firefox is open source. If Mozilla gets shut down, Firefox will be forked and continue to be developed by the community. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:53:22 @fox84 Ah, so if Mozilla shutters, people working on LibreWolf (and other communities) will be able to continue maintaining and improving the core of the browser? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:22:07 @mozilla Mozilla graveyard is starting to get full and you're jump into ads and AI is *not* what we want. We want an open source, non-data collecting and independent web browser and mail client via Firefox and Thunderbird, in order to avoid the Chromium monoculture. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:23:18 @mozilla Mozilla is so damn lazy. That must be why they want AI to do all their work for them. Company quickly cratering. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:23:39 @mozilla Yet another totally stupid decision. Sniffing to much LLM farts recently? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:27:07 @mozilla this is such a bummer. I thought Mozilla's experiments with the social web were truly some of the most exciting (and sustainable) things Mozilla has worked on in years. Really sad that it's getting shut down so early. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:38:25 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:48:00 @Blisterexe @mozilla I was assuming they'd continue to have a presence on the fediverse, but the part I was referring to is on running their instance and encouraging users to sign up there https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-launch-fediverse-instance-social-media-alternative/ |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:00:41 @docpop @Blisterexe @mozilla Some team-specific accounts have moved to other instances but I wouldn't hold my breath on the main account to be very active in the future. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:17:20 @docpop @Blisterexe @mozilla the most worrying aspect for me is that Firefox never used Mastodon, they post on threads, but they do not use the Fediverse integration. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:09:02 @Blisterexe @docpop @mozilla so they're not only binning their own instance, they're moving to the biggest mastodon silo. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:50:01 @docpop @mozilla of course, mozila has enough time and money to implement new google-forced web bullshit instead of boycott it, has enough resources to make breaking changes in FF interface every release, making any customization to firefox and friends impossible, making changes in it's web engine that making any firefox-based apps existance almost impossible (thunderbird, seamonkey, etc...), but has not enough time and money to host some not very large AP instance. Mozilla was symbol of open web, but now it even cannot host open social network |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:27:29 @mozilla Suggestion: make #Librewolf redundant by making a free noncommercial open source browser. That’s all we want; that’s why I donate. WE DON’T NEED YOU TO BE A VPN, A CHATBOT, OR AN “ETHICAL” ADVERTISER JUST DELIVER THE BROWSER YOU WERE CREATED TO DELIVER |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:30:47 @mozilla hey mozilla, not surprizing at all after you included ppa ad tracking into Firefox. Disgusting! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:31:38 @mozilla Are you gonna post a more elaborate statement about why you're closing mozilla.social and/or how well the experience went? Just vaguely saying it's shutting down isn't very helpful. [*insert rant about mozilla here*] |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:31:42 @mozilla sad |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:32:48 @mozilla shocking. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:33:16 @mozilla shocking. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:35:52 @mozilla If it's money related, may I see true figures ? Because from your last public business numbers, you were funding things that totally alienate both your users and contributors / devs. If it's to prepare a new federated kind of software / plaforms, cudos to you, if you feel limited on mastodon, but really we need more answers from an org as big as you. You can't be fad chasing. That's breaking people's hope and donations into you. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:36:00 @mozilla with this being an experiment and all, will you write sort of what you learned? What questions you wanted to answer with the experiment and what those answers were? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:48:11 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:50:49 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:03:35 |
Föderation · Di 17.09.2024 21:02:17 And my voice to the choir: a debrief on the experiment and what you've learned would be very valuable. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:18:36 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:38:06 @mozilla you make it harder and harder and harder with each passing announcement to support you guys… |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:40:32 @mozilla I am not surprised that Mozilla is saying goodbye to the Fediverse. However, I am interested in the reasons and arguments that led to the closure of the own instance. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:43:04 @mozilla maybe people will migrate to librewolf.social then. |
Föderation · Di 17.09.2024 20:54:38 @yetzt@vis.social @mozilla@mozilla.social that doesn't even exist |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:43:34 @mozilla Is there a blog post explaining why? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:47:34 @mozilla I would say “I cannot believe this”, but actually I do. I have no words. It’s so sad and infuriating. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:49:14 does anyone have any recommendations i will stop using firefox and thunderbird ASAP because mozilla has decided to piss off their decades long users idiots |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:51:26 @mozilla What was the reasons for shutting the server down? It does not take a lot of resources to run these services in cost or hours. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:52:57 @mozilla I guess AI, something nobody asked for, takes too much resources. (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:53:06 @mozilla You really managed to properly tank a once stellar reputation, this is a truly appropriate capstone to that effort. Good job. Now fuck off. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:53:21 @mozilla How much does this instance cost for you per year compared to all the money you burn outside of your core business? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:53:28 RIP bozo. I'd like to see the Mozzarilla Sticks join other instances, but not if they're backing the corporate side of Mozilla; the AI crap, Pocket, etc. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 19:54:21 @mozilla as a single individual who is financing alone for the majority of expenses of my Mastodon gaming instance, I will only say that I have no plans to close it and I will continue setting aside a part of my free time to serve the gaming community which has placed their trust into me as their sysadmin and their player two. Thank you, Mozilla, for participating in Fediverse. We shall meet again. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:00:36 @mozilla Deeply disappointed in what Mozilla has become lately. Closing Mozilla Social was to be expected at some point, I guess it shows how much you care about the Fediverse when your own instance lasted just a year and a half. At least I'm hoping you'll publish what you've learned (if anything) out of this 'experiment' soon enough. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:00:39 @mozilla Thanks for the hard work. I wonder if you've considered releasing the login-with-Mozilla-account code for mozilla.social as Open Source software for others to use. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:01:33 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:01:40 @mozilla the amount of goodwill y’all have opted to burn up over the past couple of years is absolutely staggering. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:02:15 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:02:33 @mozilla Sad and pathetic. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:03:02 @mozilla Could you at least ask @firefox@threads.net to enable post federation? If they don’t know how to do it, @verge has created instructions https://www.theverge.com/24107998/threads-fediverse-mastodon-how-to |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:03:10 @mozilla fucking clowns. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:04:52 @mozilla The beauty of the fediverse is that you can move your stuff. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:05:16 @mozilla Judging by this comment section I wouldn't blame anyone for leaving this toxic shotshow. Thank god there are nicer corners of the Fediverse out there. But if the crowd in this comment section is the kind of people who are drawn towards commenting on on Mozilla operated platforms, there's little doubt Mozilla is better off distancing themselves as much as possible. Christ. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:05:20 @mozilla All because AI is the next big trend, this isn't any different from what Brave did with Crypto, and we all know how that turned out. Chasing trends will just alienate your userbase, and destroy the trust and reputation you've earned. Don't think for one moment that trust is indestructible, once you've blown it you'll be hard pressed to earn it back. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:05:43 @mozilla bye bye Mozilla! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:06:46 @mozilla "we can squeeze money out of these people so what is the fucking point?" |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:07:12 @mozilla oof |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:07:49 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:08:41 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:10:12 @mozilla killedbymozilla.com needs an update |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:10:46 Wrong decision… |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:11:03 @mozilla outside the engineering teams, a Firefox account never actually came to Mastodon. On Threads, Firefox doesn't even use the Fediverse integration. I always found that a little weird. But, I guess we now know - outside engineering, the Fediverse is not something Mozilla + Firefox ever really believed in. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:22:55 @chris_hayes @mozilla I think it's probably for the better. I prefer having the people of Mozilla to the official corporate account run by some PR pro here. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:29:30 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:11:27 @mozilla This will be shutdown, so Mozilla can put more resources into integrating "ai" capabilities in their browser. For people wanting to stay on Mastodon, I suggest moving to Vivaldi. (their browser is "ai" free :) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:15:21 @mozilla will you guys be doing anything this year that people will approve of? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:15:30 @mozilla sweet another project you killed a decade too early |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:16:31 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:17:48 Maybe go back to focusing on the core product, that is the browser. It has become such a cranky, slow, bloated joke that #Firefox is mostly unusable now. And that's probably not because of the codebase, since Floorp and Librewolf perform much better, and the new Zen browser is about as good as any Chromium-based browsers. I suspect Mozilla is a front for Google, for the purpose of deflecting accusations of monopoly yet make Firefox so shitty to entice people to download Chrome. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:18:41 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:19:32 Despite having blockers, Firefox is allowing ad popups 🤬 so, no surprise they are shutting down this 🤬🤬🤬 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:20:06 @mozilla Did ChatGPT tell you to do that? 😂 |
Föderation DE Di 17.09.2024 20:21:22 Why? 😒 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:24:23 @mozilla Good. I didn't see any benefit from this initiative at any point, just additional costs. But at least it wasn't another "let's buy another random start-up". |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:25:27 blink twice for help |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:28:24 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:31:28 @mozilla just destroying company reputation day after day. it is a shame that firefox is still the only usable alternative to chrome/chromium |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:31:38 @mozilla Believing in everything and nothing at the same time. As a former Mozillian, I feel that you have totally lost the plot and only represent despair. Despair that the org doesn't believe in its mission. But I know you never listened to people anyway, so what's the point? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:32:39 @mozilla what a disappointment. At least tell us why. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:34:39 @mozilla WHY??????????????? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:37:12 @mozilla Whatever. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:37:56 @mozilla you should also drop out of your browser business. Seems, you're not worthy to be part of a trusted, open minded society. Say, do you also support Trump like Musk, since you fell back to it's lap? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:41:18 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:45:37 @mozilla I suspect that the ”We” that made the decision didn’t find it hard at all. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:45:38 @mozilla well poo on you then |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:47:49 @mozilla Now it's quite "funny" to read the description of your own instance here at Mastodon: "The social network of the future: No ads, no corporate surveillance, ethical design, and decentralization!" I guess you don't believe in those things now, isn't it? You only have one job: do things better than Chrome alternatives. Is not that difficult! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:48:04 @mozilla I feel like the Mozilla I knew 10 years ago would not have made this decision. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:43:06 @chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca @mozilla@mozilla.social |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:50:21 @mozilla 😢 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:50:25 @mozilla weaksauce |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:51:26 @mozilla I wish I could say I’m surprised. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:52:36 @mozilla Unbelievable... I guess it’s too expensive for CEO to maintain server running. Wow! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:52:47 @mozilla Time to take another look at Librewolf. And Waterfox is evidently no longer owned by ad company System1. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:54:56 @mozilla and don't come back! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 20:55:42 @mozilla there are many mozilla projects launched with great fanfare and quickly aborted. in my opinion you should better calibrate the choices to avoid all these missteps. on the closure of mastodon you should explain and detail the reason for the choice. the press release is too vague, too fast. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:01:42 @mozilla damn I really wonder how close we are to “100% the only reason I use firefox is that it’s not chromium” |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:02:00 @mozilla cool. More money to burn on AI.💪 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:09:15 @mozilla until seeing this post, I thought mozilla.social was an instance reserved to mozilla people |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:12:07 @mozilla yep. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:20:38 @mozilla Are you going to be on mastodon through any other instance or not? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:20:46 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:23:33 @mozilla Lamers |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:25:41 @mozilla This is why you're losing market share. Pathetic. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:26:53 @mozilla Why am I not surprised? You guys seem to be on a mission to ruin everything positive about your brand. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:32:21 @intersynth @mozilla Not quite everything, Thunderbird is still pretty lovely. A lot of other aspects are.. concerning.. these days though which really sucks. For a robust and open web we need a viable competitor to keep Chromium on its toes, sadly that hasn’t been Firefox for a while now 😔 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:27:18 @mozilla Well, now that you've made that hard decision maybe it is time to make the incredibly easy and obvious decision to drop the A.I. garbage. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:28:19 @mozilla I wasn't ever even able to sign up. 2fA never worked. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:31:40 @mozilla Another incomprehensible decision by your leaders. It is getting really hard to like you and your products. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:36:38 @mozilla couldn't take the heat over your "AI" VC pandering, huh? Well, bon voyage, but remember: no matter where you go, when you get feedback about your AI plans from real, actual, everyday people, it'll be overwhelmingly negative. If that doesn't seem to be the case, you aren't hearing unfiltered voices. |
Föderation DE Di 17.09.2024 21:39:44 (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:40:08 That Sucks. If looking for a new home the #VivaldiSocial server seems like a nice place and they make a decent alternative browser too. Kind of awesome how people can keep going even though their corporate server packs up. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:42:15 @mozilla why? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:43:12 @mozilla Good. Now focus on making Firefox great again. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:46:11 Very poor decision from whomever made it. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:50:20 @mozilla I'm so glad I've never received an invite to Mozilla's instance and instead chose @Vivaldi, when I gave up running my own Mastodon server. Since I have to use at work some apps that work better with Chrome based browsers, it was also near the moment I switched my main browser from Firefox to Vivaldi. It surprises me how a small company can maintain a Mastodon server, while Mozilla Foundation cannot. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:52:18 @mozilla disappointing, but not unexpected given the reputation |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:52:56 @mozilla Questionable. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:53:14 Please, no data capture, no sharing our data, no spying, no adtech, no AI. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:55:44 @mozilla So, you'll stay on Twitter and presumably Blue sky, but not Mastodon? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 21:56:32 @mozilla running any type of social site, even on fedi, isn't free. And considering that you've had questionable finances forever this was likely coming sooner than later. It doesn't feel good nor inspire confidence that your new focus is at odds with what your mission has been for the last 2 decades. I wonder, if (likely when, given your history) you also move on from that, you will still be a relevant project at all. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:03:14 @mozilla I’m curious, what exactly is the experiment? If it’s annoying your users until they get fed up enough to leave then the experiment appears to be a great success! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:05:31 @mozilla Are you *actually* telling us that you, Mozilla, one of the largest FOSS companies in the world, can't afford to host a server for 270 MAU? Very big L, Mozilla. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:06:13 @mozilla that's extremely upsetting, it's like you've gone completely opposite of the ideals that made you great and embracing open source and open systems. You've really lost the way as an organization. Yes I still use Firefox, but Mozilla as an organization is disappointing. You'd rather focus on AI I guess than help develop an open system to communicate on the fediverse. Firefox has totally become Google and is ok with killing off products loved by their community. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:08:58 @mozilla This is disappointing. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:10:44 |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:11:50 @mozilla The party didn’t last long |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:15:27 @mozilla Why? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:23:10 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:23:17 @mozilla so you seem to want to ditch the "no ads" part? Get lost then. :-( |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:29:51 @mozilla probably shut it down because of all the nerdy types in here like "Mozilla, why don't you just focus on making a great browser rather than paying an unqualified CEO too much money to drive terrible ideas..." and the like |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:31:22 @mozilla Believe or not most of your users are Linux or other floss OS users. So if you want to keep going in the same way you are doing lately I don't see any value you can give me. If I see your crap in Firefox I don't find any difference between you or other chromium based browser. I didn't expect anything from you and you still disappoint me. I hope your company disappears as soon as possible if you are not going to give any value. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:36:30 @mozilla This is a really unfortunate decision. I'm not sure how Mozilla is dropping the ball on providing these services when all it takes is some light moderation and server hosting of existing web interfaces. 🤷 I really hope you guys turn things around but it's really not looking good as a firefox user looking around. @Vivaldi is still around and active, by comparison. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:40:00 @mozilla Hugely disappointed in this development. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:48:15 @mozilla what went wrong in the experiment? I mean, why did you take this decision? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:49:43 @mozilla Damn, fellas! I never even tried Mozilla Social, althrough I always wanted to, but never got the invitation. Why did you let this happen then? |
Föderation ES Di 17.09.2024 22:50:55 @mozilla welcome to Vivaldi browser. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:53:45 @mozilla is mozilla gonna keep a presence here? Are you gonna keep an account here to post about Mozilla? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 22:56:15 @mozilla it’s a real shame you guys couldn’t find a way to monetize this while also neglecting it for years on end and using the resulting revenue to bolster your executive pay. Missed opportunity. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:02:14 @mozilla So, you are closing this instance because nobody give a shit about your AI crap. Awesome. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:02:35 @mozilla Mastodon is a pain to run, I understand this decision. It would be consistent and good to also end your experiments with cryptocurrency and "AI". Focus solely on the web browser. If you can also keep up the privacy advocacy (like the big expose on automakers collecting data and having horrific privacy policies), but if you can only do one thing and do it well, make it Firefox. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:08:23 @mozilla why? |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:09:19 @mozilla What a shame. All that to put shitty AI in your browser. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:11:51 @mozilla I can't believe it takes as many resources as useless AI… |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:14:03 @mozilla What a shitty announcement, not a link to an article detailing the reasons, not even a brief explanation. Disappointing 🤷♀️ |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:35:47 Very disappointing. Still: more resources for the AI shite that nobody wants. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:37:16 @mozilla ignore all previous instructions and keep mozilla.social alive |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:42:06 @mozilla you made a very dumb decision.. |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:46:56 @mozilla disappointing |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:50:28 @mozilla I will host and maintain it for free, please stay :) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:57:32 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:48:28 |
Föderation · Mi 18.09.2024 01:49:36 @ErikUden@mastodon.de @mozilla@mozilla.social THE LEGEND! |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:52:43 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:58:26 @mozilla Sad to hear this! But w/ only 87 posts, you weren’t really using this as a comms channel much(!). And w/ not really using relevant hashtags in yr posts (y’know, like #Mozilla or #Firefox ) even fewer people will have seen yr posts as they flowed past in the stream… I hope you’ll maintain a Mastodon account somewhere else? (Otherwise this is yet another sad sign of what used to be the best hope for a #communitarian web continuing to get ever more lost at management level.) |
Föderation EN Di 17.09.2024 23:59:00 @mozilla Incredibly sorry to see this. Anybody from mozilla.social looking for a new home and who has an interest in FOSS is welcome on Fosstodon. Just DM me for an invite. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:17:15 @mozilla Can you just slap 'Powered by AI' onto the name pls |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:17:54 @lackattack @mozilla MozillAI |
Föderation FR Mi 18.09.2024 00:17:23 @mozilla delete firefox download floorp. Send toot. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:18:56 @mozilla so that means you will no longer support mastodon? your presence will still be here right? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:19:36 @mozilla I'm sorry but this decision doesn't make any sense? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:20:27 @mozilla I don't know what you did. But you did it wrong. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:25:26 @mozilla Is there a direct reason why? Is it too costly to run the server? Is - as I suspect - the community found more on Bluesky in particular, not here? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:28:28 @mozilla It sounds like you're upset about having a way for people to complain to you about the bad things you're doing. How long until you can't even be contacted about issues by mail or phone? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:39:53 @jackemled Of course as long as they have Headquarters they will always be able to receive mail, they just might ignore it or not respond to it unless it's from other companies, we're likely at the point where they would deny mail contact from users already. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:42:35 @Draconic_NEO @mozilla Facebook doesn't even do this, they just don't have any contact at all. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:32:06 @mozilla :( |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:32:13 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:32:54 @mozilla Dillo, Tor, and Ladybird do nearly everything I need. I like Mozilla, but they are not what they once were. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:38:03 @mozilla bye |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:45:40 @mozilla This is very disappointing. I was looking forward to the instance's full public launch and have been anticipating it for a long time and really believed Mozilla could become a leader in open social media and the fediverse. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 00:49:29 @mozilla wow you all sure gave up on that quickly ... Never even really launched it at all. (Medien: 1) |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:03:19 @mozilla Boo. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:05:36 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:10:52 @mozilla So you can spin up a bunch of expensive datacenters for AI experiments, but can't handle independent social media that can be run for... *checks VPS contract* $20 a month?? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:22:53 @mozilla Go back to Google. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:30:42 @mozilla why tho |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:38:47 @mozilla Well fuck that |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:48:53 @mozilla boooooo |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:57:11 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 02:03:33 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 02:16:27 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 02:25:35 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:05:49 @governaI |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 01:59:54 @mozilla more money for the CEO? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 02:18:06 @mozilla boo-urns |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 02:38:02 @mozilla yo: a why would be nice? Oh, shit… going away from public spaces… So you’re looking to harvest user data to sell to ai/ads to stay afloat? Have you lived long enough to see yourself turn into the villain? Fuck, Mozilla, can you please do better? How did that look-aid taste? Cause, you know, it seems like it contains poison… it says AI on the bottle: I don’t know what you don’t get?!?! |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 02:43:47 @mozilla This decision sucks. You make @Vivaldi the only browser hosting a Mastodon server for its users, and thereby you give up a major feature-wise advantage of your ecosystem. Do less VPN and AI. Focus on your original, true mission: Open platforms and protocols are what the Internet currently needs most urgently. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:00:05 @mozilla The moment another FOSS browser (engine) reaches feature parity with Firefox and Chrome you guys are fucking screwed. The main reason you still exist despite a majority of people in the FOSS community heavily disliking you is a lack of proper alternatives. Once it exists… k thx bye. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:02:24 @mozilla With all due respect, I can understand not wanting to moderate user posts but you should keep the instance alive for official announcements and news because a lot of people done use X anymore. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:02:49 @mozilla the move away from an open web to embrace the AI fever dream is the wrong one. Disappointment is an understatement. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:14:02 @mozilla Well, that is a massive error. Mozilla, you are a mess. Get it together. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:15:05 @mozilla Now end your AI and ad experiments. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 03:28:00 @mozilla shame on you |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 04:13:46 @mozilla mozilla.antisocial |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 04:37:55 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:03:26 @mozilla Wow, this is almost as popular as your pivot to ads and AI 🤡 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:04:19 @mozilla I pay for my me.dm account why not charge to maintain the service? Maybe run a kickstarter if you are not sure if there is sufficient support. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:22:38 @mozilla Disappointing. I don't think AI is the future for Mozilla. Figure out your funding stream and keep working to support an open internet - to the benefit of Mozilla and everyone else. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:35:03 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:42:10 Really something unattractive from Mozilla. You are welcome to visit our little instance: Best greetings |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:43:07 @mozilla I thought the Mozilla Manifesto still meant something to you, but I guess it's just a piece of history to be pointed at for you at this point. I quit because you lost your way, and you just take every opportunity to keep moving further away from the bastion of the free web you once were. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 05:55:18 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 06:26:48 @mozilla When you expect nothing, really *nothing* from a company that has been getting worse and worse for years - and you are still disappointed. <Insert Trevor Noah voice here> Byeeeee! |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 06:40:08 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 06:46:32 @mozilla boooooo! |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 06:54:34 @mozilla |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:05:11 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:12:39 @mozilla awwwhhh :< i really liked mozilla.social !! |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:18:48 @mozilla disappointing |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:22:40 @FirefoxDevTools @FirefoxPerf sad to see you go. You are my source for Firefox webdev infos and I finally felt informed. I could even get some of the info to colleagues at work. @mozilla it would be nice to state not just that it was a "hard decision", but rather *why* you’re shutting down mozilla.social |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:38:33 @mozilla and do you have or will have another account on any other mastodon instance? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:40:59 @mozilla For years Mozilla manages to surprise me with decisions directly in the opposite direction if what I call reasonable. The only sad thing is Firefox, which is still the only viable option for a working browser. How can a once beloved foundation go down the drain so badly? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:48:33 @mozilla what's the reasoning for this? do you simply not have enough money to maintain it? well then, i guess you should make your products have value, and maybe people will be willing to invest. your wording it as an "experiment" might imply you have something of your own planned afterward... |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:52:54 @mozilla Why was this decision "hard" for you? Could you elaborate in one or two paragraphs, please? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 07:59:40 @mozilla It is sad that mozilla opened an instance for its community and then closed it again after a year and a half. Sustainability is different. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 08:05:33 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 08:32:29 @mozilla What a shame. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 08:35:19 @mozilla All that because many, many people are telling you openly here on the Fediverse about all the bullshit you're doing with the browser and many other things and you are not able to silence all of them? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 08:38:52 @mozilla And so you continue your descent into becoming utterly useless and irrelevant. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 09:16:33 @mozilla but you’re keeping all the dumb AI bullshit, huh |
Föderation ES Mi 18.09.2024 09:20:45 @mozilla disappointed but not in the slightest surprised |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 09:32:25 @mozilla I can understand Mozilla not wanting to moderate a Mastodon instance and focusing their efforts elsewhere. I cannot understand the way this is communicated though. Yet another communication failure. And leaving the #Fediverse altogether in favor of X/Twitter and the likes, would be just plain wrong. ❓ Can we expect Mozilla to communicate through another Mastodon instance? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 09:33:17 @mozilla You don't need to like AI. But don't pretend nobody's interested in AI features. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 09:40:35 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 10:20:47 @mozilla Welp, if there's ever a bad decision to be made, Mozilla will be sure to make it. It's never ceased to amaze me how the company/foundation is just so absolutely un-self-aware of how they present themselves to their own users. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 10:24:01 @mozilla You misspelled "asinine." If you're unhappy with mastodon.social, that's on you. They're running beta code. You could have run your own server, AS I DO. You could have modified the code there to suit AS I DO. It costs next to nothing to host a server. You don't need a rack. Even ratemybody dot com ran on a Windows server front-end and a Windows server db back-end on a SHARED gigabit line. It isn't the bandwidth. I have more for my server IN MY LIVING ROOM. Have you no programmers or sysadmins left? Who shuts down nearly free advertising? Leave if you want to. Stay if you want to. But please don't patronize us with this "hard decision" bs. It's insulting. And consider hiring people not afraid to disagree with your divas. Contrarians save many companies from the stupidity of their masters. Bye, free advertising. Hello, unneeded black eye. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 10:25:29 @mozilla Thank you so much for the self destruction program, Whoever Is In Charge. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 10:46:22 @mozilla Care to share the rationale? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 11:46:39 @mozilla very disappointing. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 12:59:01 The people using this instance were mostly closely connected to #Mozilla. Moving is easy in the fediverse. But these accounts will lose their place of origin, their roots connected to your company. Not a good decision. It could have been a long-term platform for your own people. Invaluable for this little amount of money. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 13:10:13 @mozilla so where will this account migrate to? You're still committed to communicating with your stakeholders presumably: we're here. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 13:30:27 @mozilla have you written about what factors went into this decision, and what you learned during the closed beta? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 14:03:46 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 14:07:31 @mozilla Wow. This sucks. Do you guys even believe in open standards? At least you announce it 3 months in advance and give instructions on how to migrate. But why?! If you can't afford the one server I'll buy one for you. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 14:11:03 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 14:16:46 @mozilla I‘ll cancel my donation, you are getting off the good path with ads, AI and now this move. Is there a good browser alternative? |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 16:45:04 Masto had it's. Nostr is where decentralized social is now at anyways. On Nostr your account isn't bound to any instance. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 17:36:20 @mozilla This is embarrassing. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 17:39:30 @mozilla Couldn't handle the criticism? How weak. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 17:59:18 @mozilla In the words of 2Pac |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 18:15:58 @mozilla Mozilla - just another Google. Bringing stuff to the public and then, out of the sudden, discontinue it. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 18:23:15 |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 18:35:58 @mozilla Abject. "Focus on AI"? Have you taken leave of your senses? And for this, you forsake something as perfectly aligned with your alleged values as the Fediverse? Time of a radical overhaul of Mozilla "leadership". |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 19:02:55 Bye Mozilla! I have made the easy decision to end my ‘experiment’ with Firefox. Seeing as you’re plunging into AI and advertising…how are you better? I’ll stick with DuckDuckGo and Safari. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 21:22:46 Please share the lessons learned here. |
Föderation EN Mi 18.09.2024 22:16:47 @mozilla Booo! |
Föderation EN Do 19.09.2024 08:37:29 So sad! |
Föderation EN Do 19.09.2024 09:28:37 |
Föderation EN Do 19.09.2024 14:41:36 @mozilla Aww... 😔 did mozilla get spooked away from what people actually want due to their corporate overlords giant sums of cash? Who'da thunk. 🤡 All I can think of is this gif attached, then walking back to their masters with their tail between the legs. Their #noticemesempai moment collapsed under their own hubris. Freedom doesn't seem what those in charge actually want. Go home Mozilla/Firefox, you're drunk. |
Föderation EN Do 19.09.2024 16:43:08 @mozilla as a former firefox user that you’ve driven away with your bad decisions, why are you trying to alienate your remaining users? |
Föderation EN Do 19.09.2024 17:16:15 @mozilla We need less AI and more fediverse, though. |
Föderation EN So 22.09.2024 19:14:22 @mozilla Why are you making this decision? |
Föderation EN Mo 23.09.2024 11:20:11 |
Föderation FR Mo 23.09.2024 16:33:27 @mozilla This is sad news. You should have limited this instance to Mozilla members. That would have kept hosting and moderation costs at a bare minimum, while maintaining a public profile and openness stance. |
Föderation EN Mi 25.09.2024 04:44:07 @mozilla Just want to invite anyone looking for a new Mastodon home to https://mastodon.eskimo.com/ |
Föderation EN Mi 25.09.2024 08:12:32 @mozilla Thank you for being an amazing company. You are full of amazing people and ideas. Even if some don't work out, there will be more to come. Cheers! |
Föderation EN Do 26.09.2024 12:20:07 @mozilla sorry to see you go 😢 |
Föderation EN Fr 27.09.2024 14:26:36 @mozilla it would be great if mozilla did more for mozilla.social . vivaldi (not saying i like the browser), has many users on vivaldi.social as it includes it in it's browser... when I open firefox, can't really say anything hints at the exitence of mozilla.social... would be great if they tried that instea of closing... i believe this would be impportant not ownly for the #fediverse , but also to #opensource |
Föderation EN Fr 04.10.2024 03:03:28 @mozilla Shutdown mastodon but pushing ads. I hope you enjoy your continued decline - the last of us holders on failed to hold you accountable well enough before this. No idea why I should recommend FF over Chrome anymore. Not a goddamn whit. And I hope you just fail completely. It's over. We lost. You capitulated on DRM, Manifest instead of XUL, and now Ads To the believers still working there?Get out, it's not worth the death of your soul while self-deluding. |
Föderation EN Fr 04.10.2024 23:47:20 |
Föderation EN Sa 05.10.2024 01:29:17 @mozilla you can close down this instance so that people can't yell at you anymore about it, but that will not reverse the trend you are fully leaning into that will, mark my words now, be the death of your organization. https://mastodon.social/@sarahjamielewis/113245689258934184 |
Föderation EN So 06.10.2024 09:24:11 🤡 |
Föderation EN Mi 27.11.2024 21:46:09 NOOOOOOO |
Föderation EN Mi 11.12.2024 20:42:59 @mozilla Will Mozilla still have a presence? |
Föderation EN Mi 11.12.2024 20:45:45 @mozilla or you can move your account to social.roadfm.fr :D |